@Gordon Nichols I make mine out of composite and then they go on afterwards. they aren't as integrated as the originals, BUT I also need them to be easily removable so you can access the kick panel cover for hinge access, speaker access, wiring harness access, etc... Anyway, they have one attachment point at the bottom and then 2 at the top, all of which get covered over with an insert after they are installed. I'll e-mail you pics.