I didn't see any price lists. I guess if you have to ask........you know the rest.
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Family owned a 21 ft Chris/Craft cabin cruiser back in the early 60's, ran it to Catalina all the time, I was just a kid, but I remember spending way more time stripping the wood than actually having fun with it...they were a whole bunch of work when you kept them in salt water
The old boats is where the idea came from.
I read once that if you have a hankering for an old boat, buy an old dresser first and strip and refinish it. Then when it's done one month later do it again. If you like doing it the third time around go for the boat.
I read once that if you have a hankering for an old boat, buy an old dresser first and strip and refinish it. Then when it's done one month later do it again. If you like doing it the third time around go for the boat.
Barry,
Never heard that one before, but I can relate. Had an all mahageny (?) 31 ft cabin cruiser once, ca. mid '50s vintage, and the brightwork on that thing was extensive. I think I only refinished a few sections more than once. Certainly spent more time fixing and refinishing than sailing, I can assure you. Ultimately, figured out I could not own both a house and a boat, so the boat was sold. Have not had another one since, wood or FG. You know: hole in the water where the money goes . . .
Never heard that one before, but I can relate. Had an all mahageny (?) 31 ft cabin cruiser once, ca. mid '50s vintage, and the brightwork on that thing was extensive. I think I only refinished a few sections more than once. Certainly spent more time fixing and refinishing than sailing, I can assure you. Ultimately, figured out I could not own both a house and a boat, so the boat was sold. Have not had another one since, wood or FG. You know: hole in the water where the money goes . . .
Two happy days owning a boat, the purchase and selling dates.
My "last" boat was a hydroplane that left me upside down on a lake, not a pleasant experience.
My "last" boat was a hydroplane that left me upside down on a lake, not a pleasant experience.
Oh good golly, Kelly that first pic REALLY does it for me. I would love to have a Chris Craft or a Riva, etc. I'm especially fond of the ones they call the "barrel back".
But that first one, whatever it is - THAT is what I now lust for...
angela
But that first one, whatever it is - THAT is what I now lust for...
angela
I used to attend an annual gathering of classic wooden boats in Green Lake, WI. Most of those competing were Chris Crafts from the 40's, 50's and early 60's. The consistent winner was the commodore of the local club that had a 17' runabout that was to die for. It was absolutely beautiful and perfectly restored. I don't remember any of the "barrel back" types competing, but I understand the attraction; nice rounded lines like a Speedster, I guess. These boats, unless you have somebody else doing the work, are a real labor of love, more like an avocation than a hobby. BTW Kelly, you could have sold the house....;-)
There is a spring "Wheels and Keels" show in Seabrook, TX each year. Well worth the price of admission for both cars and boats. Some of the finest of both..... no connection, but I sure like going http://www.keels-wheels.com/
One year my buddy won a trophy for "Peoples Choice Award" at this show, in his red Beck 550 Spyder. People loved it, show sponsors did not....the nerve of the people to select a "plastic kit car".....he didn't get invited back.....that said, if you are anyplace around SE Texas at show time you owe it to yourself to check this show out....
One year my buddy won a trophy for "Peoples Choice Award" at this show, in his red Beck 550 Spyder. People loved it, show sponsors did not....the nerve of the people to select a "plastic kit car".....he didn't get invited back.....that said, if you are anyplace around SE Texas at show time you owe it to yourself to check this show out....
angela, does steve see this forum? Does he know what it is you REALLY lust for, besides him, of course?
I posted a website this summer of the "official" pictures from this boat show, but can't find that right now. Will try later. the rounded backs (barrel??) were very well represented. Not that I do not like the rounded rump of the Speedster, 'cause I do, but I think I like the "classic" look of the flat transom on these runabouts better. One of these days . . .
I posted a website this summer of the "official" pictures from this boat show, but can't find that right now. Will try later. the rounded backs (barrel??) were very well represented. Not that I do not like the rounded rump of the Speedster, 'cause I do, but I think I like the "classic" look of the flat transom on these runabouts better. One of these days . . .
Back to point: Jim Youngs and Max Zimmer: I have now put my money where my mouth (keyboard, actually) is and signed up for the magazine -- two years worth, so you guys gotta keep it going now.
My question is: how do I get the issue about the Pumpkin run? Will that come along w/ the subscription??
My question is: how do I get the issue about the Pumpkin run? Will that come along w/ the subscription??
ive had a few boats, used to be fun. Then they got the water Nazis
out looking for extra revenue, then u can get a DWI and it just wasnt fun anymore. they dont get my tax revenue anymore.
out looking for extra revenue, then u can get a DWI and it just wasnt fun anymore. they dont get my tax revenue anymore.
Yeah, Bob, just like those karn-sarned Road Nazi's killing my drunk-driving fun. Next thing you know they'll have Air Nazi's making up a bunch a stoopit rules about how we can't pilot our planes whilst sauced up!
Wait...what?
Wait...what?
BWAAAAAAA Haaaaaaaaa...good one Ed. This site is the best bang for your buck as far as entertainment value goes.
Jim: Your 2 cents worth?????
Actually I do agree with you.
Actually I do agree with you.
Kelly -- I wrote Jim a note telling him to kick your subscription off with the Pumpkin Run story. Sure hope you enjoy. Tell Babs hi.
Max
Max
Max, 10-4, good buddy.
Doug sent me a copy of your article/column, and I pushed it to Babs. We both enjoyed your account.
Very nice description of the event, and the tall stories told. Too bad you had to hallucinate the German coutryside in order to enjoy it. On the other hand, perhaps inducing hallucinations is not all that hard for you, being a flower child of a certain age, like you are. Also, I missed the nude hikers . . .
Doug sent me a copy of your article/column, and I pushed it to Babs. We both enjoyed your account.
Very nice description of the event, and the tall stories told. Too bad you had to hallucinate the German coutryside in order to enjoy it. On the other hand, perhaps inducing hallucinations is not all that hard for you, being a flower child of a certain age, like you are. Also, I missed the nude hikers . . .
Kelly -- You missed them? Rocky's got pictures. They ain't cheap. Glad Doug hooked you up.
Max
Max
HI Kelly my name is Alan and I, sent you the article... :~)
Yeah, Alan's other name is Doug.
(although I bet Kim sometimes has a few other names for him, too....)
(although I bet Kim sometimes has a few other names for him, too....)
Alan! Alan! Alan!
No wait - that's Doug.
Doug! Doug! Doug!
No wait - that's Doug.
Doug! Doug! Doug!
Lane -- thanks for reminding me of one of my all time favorite videos.
It don't take much.
It don't take much.
Holy Carp! Just got my copy (Thanx, Jim) and see Blackie's arse made it to print. Cool!
~WB
~WB
Okay guys - Boss Jim has been fielding requests for the Pumpkin Run issue of Kit Car Builder and suggests thinking about subscribing. If you sign on before February 1st you'll get the next (April) issue with a feature on the Subie-powered Special Edition Spyder. Plus it's the tenth anniversary issue. And for a real treat - a build story on the Hoopty written and photographed by the pilot himself.
Cool! Did my sub. last week!
~WB
~WB
Damned smart coup getting Cory to do the pix and story of the Hoopty
--I can't wait to read that one!
Too bad the article won't have some kind of sound feature to hear that machine wide open at 4,500-5,000 RPMs---ain't nuthin like it!
I was beside Cory when he put the boots to it--quite an impressive sound.
Let's get a photo of Theresa in there too---and how about a paragraph about how they met--a Cinderella story if I ever heard one.
This will be a classic!
Good for Kit Car Magazine.
Guys---it's not all about just the cars. It's the:
Trips
Friends
Parties
Fun
Group events
Carlisle
Pismo Beach
This SOC site
Crazy-ass knuckle heads (Credit to El Guapo)
Videos of events
Gerd and his side kick "suck man"
Tips and
"How to's" from new and old friends
Caravans
Playing Cornhole (I'm not making this up!)
Egg Sammiches
Oban
The Biltmore
And so much more
It's all good!
And Kit Car Magazine
--I can't wait to read that one!
Too bad the article won't have some kind of sound feature to hear that machine wide open at 4,500-5,000 RPMs---ain't nuthin like it!
I was beside Cory when he put the boots to it--quite an impressive sound.
Let's get a photo of Theresa in there too---and how about a paragraph about how they met--a Cinderella story if I ever heard one.
This will be a classic!
Good for Kit Car Magazine.
Guys---it's not all about just the cars. It's the:
Trips
Friends
Parties
Fun
Group events
Carlisle
Pismo Beach
This SOC site
Crazy-ass knuckle heads (Credit to El Guapo)
Videos of events
Gerd and his side kick "suck man"
Tips and
"How to's" from new and old friends
Caravans
Playing Cornhole (I'm not making this up!)
Egg Sammiches
Oban
The Biltmore
And so much more
It's all good!
And Kit Car Magazine
and Beer....
You forgot the Beer...
You forgot the Beer...
Damned right---the beer!
PS: I got my back-copy w/ PR II article -- thanks Max, Jim. Looking fwd to the regular delivery of the rag as my two year subscription is now in place.
And Doug/Alan: I got two copies of the article forwarded to me, one each from the two of you.
And Doug/Alan: I got two copies of the article forwarded to me, one each from the two of you.
I might have to subscribe.
Cory,
The way I see it, w/all the material you have supplied to Max & Co. (which includes hair-raising rides at impossible speeds) they should give you a life-time honorary subscription -- like FOR FREE. I'm just sayin' . . .
The way I see it, w/all the material you have supplied to Max & Co. (which includes hair-raising rides at impossible speeds) they should give you a life-time honorary subscription -- like FOR FREE. I'm just sayin' . . .
"I might have to subscribe."
Be careful there Buddy . . . this might just be an out of the ordinary thing goin' on for a moment or two. For the most part, that rag is chock-o'-block full of boring Cobra crap. Like multi-issue issue reports on Cobra performance reviews and desert test runs and that kinda shit. Before subscribing, check out past issues, do your homework, you might well be let down.
ALL magazines cater towards their advertisers (subscribers and news stand sales don't pay the bills) and most of those these days are from Cobra copies. Not enough coin in a finished Speedster vs a Cobra to make it worth it for advertisers to take a big space in the mag for long. No ads equals no articles.
Just saying, don't get caught up in this thing, wait 'till later and see of it's worth throwing in your coin . . . or buy a Cobra copy and enjoy life. The "replica" section of Ebay is pretty much all cobra all the time.
Be careful there Buddy . . . this might just be an out of the ordinary thing goin' on for a moment or two. For the most part, that rag is chock-o'-block full of boring Cobra crap. Like multi-issue issue reports on Cobra performance reviews and desert test runs and that kinda shit. Before subscribing, check out past issues, do your homework, you might well be let down.
ALL magazines cater towards their advertisers (subscribers and news stand sales don't pay the bills) and most of those these days are from Cobra copies. Not enough coin in a finished Speedster vs a Cobra to make it worth it for advertisers to take a big space in the mag for long. No ads equals no articles.
Just saying, don't get caught up in this thing, wait 'till later and see of it's worth throwing in your coin . . . or buy a Cobra copy and enjoy life. The "replica" section of Ebay is pretty much all cobra all the time.
Ahhh, TC, you'd complain if they hung you with a new rope.
No, really . . . I'm just saying that one or two issues doesn't a subscription make. Sure, pic up the issue, but if you're gonna subscribe, better start lovin' Cobra copies right now, because it's mostly V8 powered shit, a VERY rare Porsche mention and the occasional plastic Cheetah claiming to be a "continuation" of the original series. Actually subscribe and you're fuckin' doomed with this mag.
Mostly ads and the rest boring for a replica Porsche Boy.
Seriously, grab a two month old issue and open it up. Seriously
Mostly ads and the rest boring for a replica Porsche Boy.
Seriously, grab a two month old issue and open it up. Seriously
TC's point about coverage in Kit Car Builder magazine is pretty much on mark. It IS at least 2/3 Cobra. And I've been reading these rags for at least 20 years (there used to be two magazines - the other died a few years ago).
My point is - I've also subscribed to Car and Driver for the past 30 years or so. I don't personally own a Lexus LFA, a Gallardo, an Aston, a Porsche GT3RS, a Fisker Karma, a Pagini, or an FRC500 Mustang, but I do like to read about them.
My point is - I've also subscribed to Car and Driver for the past 30 years or so. I don't personally own a Lexus LFA, a Gallardo, an Aston, a Porsche GT3RS, a Fisker Karma, a Pagini, or an FRC500 Mustang, but I do like to read about them.
Wow David, at first I thought you said you own the cars on that list.
Kit Car Builder is worth the price just to read Max. He's one of us.
Kit Car Builder is worth the price just to read Max. He's one of us.
KKB does a wide range of articles, not just Cobras. ~Alan
Yea, the Cobra reps are a big part of KCB for sure. I do read about them and some of the articles are pretty darned interesting. There are also articles about our cars, more recently than in the past, and good articles about "sevens", another car I would put in my expanded garage. I like the magazine just fine and the people that produce it. They will keep my subscription. Oh, and one of my first reads is ALWAYS "actual mileage". Max rocks, big time.
Hoss
Hoss
Max Rocks!
If for no other reason than no one else supports our hobby AT ALL,
we should get behind Kit Car Magazine.
Surely the last articles on Morro Bay and the Pumpkin Run are worth the price of admission. I like Cobras too---anything wrong with that? My best car buddy has one and we go to car shows together---I always beat his ass with my VS, so as far as Cobras, I have a little sympathy but no distain. The ads are useful as well and I wish I had that pan frame someone is offering in the display ads at the back. Maybe for my next car. Plus I expect an article on the Hoopty is in the cards sometime ---who wouldn't want to see that!
I do agree with Hoss too--the writing is very well done. Max is a hoot and an extremely clever wordsmith.
I don't own stock in KCM but encourage everyone to support someone who supports us.
If you don't want to subscribe---don't. Other things in life should be as simple.
we should get behind Kit Car Magazine.
Surely the last articles on Morro Bay and the Pumpkin Run are worth the price of admission. I like Cobras too---anything wrong with that? My best car buddy has one and we go to car shows together---I always beat his ass with my VS, so as far as Cobras, I have a little sympathy but no distain. The ads are useful as well and I wish I had that pan frame someone is offering in the display ads at the back. Maybe for my next car. Plus I expect an article on the Hoopty is in the cards sometime ---who wouldn't want to see that!
I do agree with Hoss too--the writing is very well done. Max is a hoot and an extremely clever wordsmith.
I don't own stock in KCM but encourage everyone to support someone who supports us.
If you don't want to subscribe---don't. Other things in life should be as simple.