1969 VW pan based Speedster $35k

nice car....are U related to our Marty,,U have same driving gloves..

Good looking Speedster! Swingaxle or irs? 4x130 or 5x205 bolt pattern? wheel rim width? tire size(s)? discs or drums? was the transaxle rebuilt (any upgrades?) before installation or 'good used'? ring&pinion ratio?  balljoint front? was it lowered with offset spindles, beam adjusters, select-a-drop, centers cut/rotated/welded or a combination of?

@James007

Can you explain about your title?  You mentioned that it's registered in Ca as a 1969 VW, VIN added to the body by CHP.  Typically, in California, if the CHP is involved with registering one of these cars it ends up with a Special Construction title rather than a VW title.

@ALB posted:

Good looking Speedster! Swingaxle or irs? 4x130 or 5x205 bolt pattern? wheel rim width? tire size(s)? discs or drums? was the transaxle rebuilt (any upgrades?) before installation or 'good used'? ring&pinion ratio?  balljoint front? was it lowered with offset spindles, beam adjusters, select-a-drop, centers cut/rotated/welded or a combination of?

Swingaxle, 4x130, front discs-rear drums, good used transaxle, balljoint front, wasn’t lowered as far as I know, not sure about the ring & pinion ratio, it’s supposed to be stock, but can reach 75-80 mph, tires 175/65 R15

@Troy Sloan posted:

@James007

Can you explain about your title?  You mentioned that it's registered in Ca as a 1969 VW, VIN added to the body by CHP.  Typically, in California, if the CHP is involved with registering one of these cars it ends up with a Special Construction title rather than a VW title.

Started the registration process at DMV, and was told it needed a second VIN, so I had to take it to CHP for them to add the body VIN, after that, I completed the registration at DMV and ended titled as a 1969 VW. Prior to 1969 only 1 VIN is needed, but later vehicles had two VIN’s, one on body and one on frame, that is why DMV sent me to CHP to add that VIN to the new body.

@barncobob posted:

nice car....are U related to our Marty,,U have same driving gloves..

Nope

@James007 posted:

Started the registration process at DMV, and was told it needed a second VIN, so I had to take it to CHP for them to add the body VIN, after that, I completed the registration at DMV and ended titled as a 1969 VW. Prior to 1969 only 1 VIN is needed, but later vehicles had two VIN’s, one on body and one on frame, that is why DMV sent me to CHP to add that VIN to the new body.

You were very lucky that the DMV didn't make you title it as a Special Construction and that the CHP agreed to do it.  Where did they put the VIN number and what does it look like?

@Troy Sloan posted:

You were very lucky that the DMV didn't make you title it as a Special Construction and that the CHP agreed to do it.

Why? Here in Utah a Special Construction title is a green light to whatever. A ‘69 VW not so much.

@dlearl476 posted:

Why? Here in Utah a Special Construction title is a green light to whatever. A ‘69 VW not so much.

Special Construction titles generally designate the "year" as the year the title was issued. In states or cities with emissions inspections, this means forever failing. Your car isn't going to make 2021 emissions, even with an EJ Subaru and a stock ECU, to say nothing of a Type 1 running pig-rich Kadrons.

Utah is certainly not California...what works in one state has nothing to do with the processes in other states. Apples and oranges.

@DannyP posted:

Utah is certainly not California...what works in one state has nothing to do with the processes in other states. Apples and oranges.

Which is why I asked.

They’re so laisse faire here, it’s good to know what issues happen out of state.

@Troy Sloan posted:

You were very lucky that the DMV didn't make you title it as a Special Construction and that the CHP agreed to do it.  Where did they put the VIN number and what does it look like?

Here is a pic of the assigned ID number attached by CHP on the door frame. After they attached it, CHP issued a very nice high quality color certificate, but DMV kept it, I regret not taking a picture or a copy of it, never thought they were going to keep such nice document, even tho it is useless, I think it would be nice to have it because it links the frame VIN with the assigned ID number.
CHP appointment was scheduled 3 months ahead, got 7 minutes late and had to reschedule, CHP officer was nice enough to give me a new appointment date 3 weeks later.

No picture, James.

I'm interested in where you got the body. It looks great.

... and BTW: GLWTS. It's a beauty.

@dlearl476 posted:

Why? Here in Utah a Special Construction title is a green light to whatever. A ‘69 VW not so much.

In California a Special Construction title will require documentation about the build, which the new owner may not have or be able to obtain, especially if the car has passed through several prior owners.  In the best case, it's typically a big PITA and in the worst case the car can't be registered.  It can also cost a lot more money.

@Troy Sloan posted:

In California a Special Construction title will require documentation about the build, which the new owner may not have or be able to obtain, especially if the car has passed through several prior owners.  In the best case, it's typically a big PITA and in the worst case the car can't be registered.  It can also cost a lot more money.

Is that required for subsequent owners? I’ve always assumed that was for the initial MSO->Title transaction and once a car was titled, it was simply a transfer of title.

Once titled, it will just be a transfer. If it is a VW pan based, it won’t be a special construction. Special construction are those tube chasis kits, but pan based keeps their VW registration.

Here is the pic

@Stan Galat posted:

No picture, James.

I'm interested in where you got the body. It looks great.

... and BTW: GLWTS. It's a beauty.

Got it from a guy that makes them in Mexico City, a lot of work needed to be done to the body, doesn’t come ready to paint and shipping may be a hassle, but you can find him in www.mercadolibre.com

@dlearl476 posted:

Is that required for subsequent owners? I’ve always assumed that was for the initial MSO->Title transaction and once a car was titled, it was simply a transfer of title.

Not if the new owner is also in California, but all bets are off if they are in another state.

@Stan Galat posted:

No picture, James.

I'm interested in where you got the body. It looks great.

... and BTW: GLWTS. It's a beauty.

I would be interested to know the body make as well. @James007

Link doesn't get one to the car manf????

it’s just a guy that literally makes the bodies in his garage in Mexico City, don’t expect a LLC or a “known company”, he probably supplies some known companies, but this is just a guy named Luis Manuel from Mexico City, if you go to www.mercadolibre.com.mx, and search for speedster, you will find he is the only seller of kits. Sorry, that is all I have, and his phone number +52 55 1210 7593. Hope this helps. I don’t know if he speaks english.

@James007

Regardless of where it came from, you did a great job putting that car together with nice appointments. Great looking car, best of luck with the sale!

Is this car still available. I live in Escondido amd wondering if I could see it.
7608034032

@DLA posted:

Is this car still available. I live in Escondido amd wondering if I could see it.
7608034032

@James007 Someone is asking about the car.

PM sent, thanks