1970 914-6

It has the Fuch wheels , but I thought the 914-6 had flared fenders.  Like this.

http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp.../11/914-6slammed.jpg

http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp.../11/914-6slammed.jpg

I read this on a Porsche forum; "I read it on the internet so it must be true".....

 

All the factory GTs and you could order the m471 package which was basically a 914-6 with a few goodies, including the steel flares.

 

A few were factory, a few were dealer, kits were also sold. Remember, 914-6 were finished in the Porsche factory, not VW and only a very few had flares installed. Dealer installation must have been after paint. I think the total number of factory flared cars is ~40-60

Flared fenders appeared in 1972.  Troy, I was with you, I thought

all 914-6's had flared fenders.   I didn't even think they made

the 6's in 1970 until I checked.

A little more info I just learned: 70,000 miles with a broken speedo. The owner is the second but he picked it up in '72 or so. I believe it has been lightly used and not abused. I may be able to see it before Sunday. Sorry, for now this is all the photos I can get my hands on.

Sellers are hoping to fetch 25-40k, that's what I have been told.

$25- $40K is a lot of money, even in this market. However, if they can get it-- more power to them.

25-40k is quite a spread.  It sounds like sellers do not know what it actual value is.  I always had a soft spot for these cars and considered buying one in 1971 (four cylinder model) but purchased a dorkmobile instead. 

The 914-6 and the 916(Flared Fenders) were two different animals, I believe.

 

~WB

I'd fix the speedo for that kind of coin.  Speedo, cable or drive gear - $150 max. Isn't the steel factory flared one called the GT model?

My thoughts exactly. Doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the OCD tendencies of the seller that top-dollar buyers are looking for.

The seller is 87 years old...and not doing repairs.

 

That's cool. He's going to get a lot less than top dollar less $150, though.

Unfortunately I don't think this family went the right direction on this car. I'm anxious to see its condition. I think it's going to be one of those time capsules.

 

DREAM ON! I just got back from Hot August Nights Barrett Jackson auction.  Totally original low miles 72 VW Porsche (or 914 if you prefer) was up for $12k.  I can see $30k on a steel flared fender 914-6 but not for a NB.  Good 914 resource is http://camp914.com/projectcars.html

6 yrs ago I bought a really nice 914 with 2.2 big bore for $2k.. Sold it for $5k and now they are fetching around $10k and still going up.  Heck why not have Renegade Hybrids build you a ferrari killer for $18k!?

Rich-

 

This is a clean, low mile example of a car that is becoming increasingly desirable. I know you're just being a nice guy helping out a friend's family, and don't have any financial interest in the car.

 

The thing is, the odometer not working is a huge deal that could be corrected for no more than $300. A broken odometer says, "This car could have 78,000 mi, or it could have 278,000 mi. It's hard to know for sure". It takes the biggest asset the car has (low miles and an unbroken chain of ownership), and throws it out the window. I don't care if the owner is 47, 87, or 127-- the seller isn't going to get anything approaching their hoped-for price with a broken odometer.

Stan, stop shooting the messenger. I'm only reporting what I hear and know.

I never said they were going to get 25-40k, just that's what I hear they're hoping to get.

And yes, they will probably be disappointed to find that it isn't worth that type of money and that someone should have fixed the odometer.

If this car is a relatively rust free all original example with original paint, motor, etc, and can pass a PCA accredited ppi, then $40K (or more) is a reasonable expectation.  I don't think the speedo issue will matter, as a thorough ppi should give an indication of ballpark mileage.  I'm not sure ebay would be my choice to market the car.  I would probably look at PCA affiliated venues or Hemmings first.  If this is a clean original example, and they are looking at $25K as a minimum acceptable offer, then they need to do more homework.

 

I'm with Tom on where to sell this car - Start with Hemming's Motor News (1'st choice) and/or the PCA classifieds (2'nd choice) and run it for two months.  If it's not gone in those two months, THEN put it up on ebay as an auction but I bet Hemming's will sell it in 1 month.  I would also set the price at $40K obo in Hemmings and then $30K in ebay.  I also don't think the non-working odo is a big deal.  Any decent Porschefile who knows what they're looking at won't much care about the odo anyway - they'll know what they're looking at.   These things are very little like replicas in how they sell.  Just remember that there are precious few real, numbers-matching 914-6 cars left around.

 

PLUS!  This is one of the 914 "sleepers" - it doesn't have those silly, tacked-on rear fenders to give it away and these cars went like the hammers of Hell.....Straight line, curves, nothing mattered.  A 914-6 was the only car my Corvair-powered dune buggy ever had decent competition from in Autocross in the '70's.  They are formidable cars, indeed.  Wish I had the cash to snap it up...This is about the only air cooled car I would consider as a replacement for Pearl. (And Cory now knows why!)

You should post this on 914world.com   They'll be able to give you a better idea of what the selling price should be.  Recently, there was someone posting a reward for anyone with a lead on original 914-6 that is for sale.  Like all old Porsches, mileage usually isn't as important as condition & history.  

Nah, don't post it.  Sell it to me for $25k.

 

Guess I'd have to sell the Speedster, tho'.

BTW, the last I heard from the daughter (on Monday) about this tentative eBay sale is that it may go up on Thursday.

In light of this 914 lovefest, I thought this might be good time to share my video of SOCer Warren White (DUBSTUB) shredding the track at a Porsche Auto-X in his sweeeeet 914 (2.3L).

 

For best video quality, click 'GEAR' icon to adjust to 720HD! 

 

 

IMO owners of 914 should spend the $45 to join PCA and list in Pano and on line.

AUTOCROSS vs Track day:  THe older I have become the less time I have to stand around for 7 hrs to get 4 mins of seat time.  Only problem is lotsa car clubs like PCA will not let you run a "kit car".  As a result I have run my last PCA event even  in my 993.  My CMC "kit" has a roll bar and shoulder harnesses and is as about as safe as my 993.  Luckily there are other clubs that will let you run if you have brakes and a seat belt.  90 mins from me is a short vers of Laguna Seca that is a complete hoot.  For $175 a driver can drive up to 8 30 min sessions.  At my age (66) I am exhausted after 7 and just pop a brew, load on the trailer and call it a day.  BUt I loved looking at this video.  Makes me want to get out there after missing this year cause CMC not ready and 993 just had face lift.

THANKS FOR POSTING THE VID.  

Anyone in the NW or even NorCal should give this place a shot.  Only course as cool is perhaps THunderhill near Sacto.   http://oregonraceway.com

Go to the pelicanparts.com website. There's a guy looking for an original sixer. It's in the classified section. 

Richard, I am interested in this car. Could you give my number to the owner? 561 301 7885 Thanks, Will

Willy P, see your dialogue messages.

Well, it finally made it up on eBay...item #290963893933. Plenty of photos and looking a little rough around the edges. I did notice some receipts from the mechanic that I use so I can probably get an honest opinion from him. Looks like the last time he may have seen the car 5 years ago. Good luck if you're interested.

$18,800 and 9 days plus to go. FYI-I called the eBay Store and they gave me the current shop familiar with the car: http://www.csmotorsports.net/index.html

Yowsa! $22,100 already...it appears that some value the car more than others.

Rich,

You might mention to the owner that their ad could be much more effective if they emphasize that it is a 914-6 on the top bold line, instead of just saying 914 targa.  If someone is just doing a quick visual scan they could easily miss the fact that it is a 6.

 

Tom, with the price up to $30,300, I don't think I need to bother the auctioneer with those silly details...someone already figured it out.

Rich,

It was just a suggestion to maximize potential.  It is a hot item, as the bid history indicates, but it also indicates that it is a 2 horse race at this point.  It would be nice to know as much interest as possible had been generated and nothing was going to be left on the table. Five or six guys fighting for it would certainly equate to a better result for the seller.  It is certainly fun to watch, though.  I wish the seller all the best.

 

Tom, true, I was just stating the obvious. With another 8 or 9 days to go, I'm sure those with the means looking for such a car will find it. If not, they weren't looking hard enough.

$35,100 this morning...

 

At that price you start running into some serious competition.  If you want a mid engine Porsche, you might find a Cayman for 35k.  If you want a collectable 911, you are getting close to a 993..... I would like to have it and they are appreciating but that would be all in for me....

 

Of course, Baskin and Robbins  has more than 30 flavors for different tastes. 

Rich, that's great news! I'm sure the owner must be thrilled as the bidding gets close to the higher figure he was hoping for.

 

Stan, I'll be sending you your crow for dinner...roasted or sauteed?...think of it as bad bar food

Wow - surprised bidding that high.  After looking at honest close up pictures it has had rust and considerable repainting.  It would need to be stripped and repainted IMHO. I haven't seen Michelin XAS tires since 1976 (had them on my '72 914). No mention of non-op odo just praise for its low mileage!  I've never seen a 914-6 without the fog lights in the front bumpers - looks bare without them ($300).  I'm not a fan of all the undercoating applied (wheel arches and door bottoms) - it traps moisture and hides rust.  Just not many made and it appears un- molested so perfect (albeit costly) restoration candidate. 

 

"What's My Car Worth" guy said (while driving a Studebaker Avanti) he hates to get in car where gauges don't work as it is indication other hidden pieces not maintained. 

Wow is right-$36,100 this morning...are one of you interested parties here bidder "i***d"? If you are, you seem to be emphatic about closing this deal. Good luck.