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Can you guys with your much-smarter-than-I-am knowledge of 911s offer up some opinions on this rig? I'm a proponent of the '82 SC because of the ease of maintenance, but my knowledge of anything to do with the '80 is weak.
There's a Marine reserve colonel here in Djibouti who's decided that a 911 is in his future, and he likes the looks of this one in particular. He's not a P-car guy yet, and I'd hate to think I gave him ill-considered advice. He's headed back to the world in a few weeks.
Any help would be great. Here's the car:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=290303208155
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Can you guys with your much-smarter-than-I-am knowledge of 911s offer up some opinions on this rig? I'm a proponent of the '82 SC because of the ease of maintenance, but my knowledge of anything to do with the '80 is weak.
There's a Marine reserve colonel here in Djibouti who's decided that a 911 is in his future, and he likes the looks of this one in particular. He's not a P-car guy yet, and I'd hate to think I gave him ill-considered advice. He's headed back to the world in a few weeks.
Any help would be great. Here's the car:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=290303208155
I don't have 1st-hand knowledge, but friends have told me that the 1978-1982 SC, 3.0-liter model, had some chain-tensioner (mechanical) issues. I believe this was resolved in the '82-on 3.3 liter via application of hydraulic tensioners. (Many Porschephiles upgrade the 3.0 tensioners and appears to be well-documented.) The 3.0 and the 3.3 liter engines otherwise have a reputation as being 200k mile engines, IF well maintained. Your EBAY example LOOKS clean. Have your friend check with the PCA/regional owner's groups for "hands-on" knowledge!
I found this:
http://www.pca.org/panorama/panorama%20features/BuyingA911SC.html
Hope it helps; there's much info out there. Anything replaced ($) on a performance VW engine can be multiplied by a guess-timated factor of 10 with the Porsche name cast/stamped onto it.
I have an open CARFAX but then I realized this is an 80 and of course, the VINs did not standardize until 1981. 1980 for Porsche was a real odd year for a VIN anyway as it was that year that they changed the first three digits from 911 to 91A, then onto WP0.

1980 brought a few changes to the SC. This is the first year that came standard with the heavier lower valve covers (turbo valve covers). This eliminated quite a few of the lower valve cover leaks. The 1980 3.0 engine is rated at 180 hp for the US, same for all states. The earlier cars had better flowing heads with lower compression. The 1980 to 1983 cars made do with smaller ports in the heads but higher compression. Works out the same. The transmission is a 915. They made them forever, some people hate them, I think they're a bunch of pussies. Nothing wrong with that transmission.

The original clutch is rubber centered. It was a shitty idea. Look for repair work indicating a replacement or budget for that. The headstuds are an issue with 3.0 engines. They tend to break, not pull (like the 2.7's). It is almost always the exhaust side that breaks. When a PPI is done, pay extra to have the lower valve covers dropped and headstuds checked. Oddly, some of the lowest mileage engines have the most broken head studs. Heat cycling? A fellow on Pelican had a 60,000 mile car with 6 broken lower studs. That is not a cheap repair. Engine tear down to the case.

That said, the 3.0 its probably the toughest engine Porsche ever made. I've seen the bottom ends of these go a half million miles. There are no notable issues with valves, guides, etc. Carrera chain tensioners are a very desirable upgrade (no mention of this in the ad).

This car has low miles and very nice options. The a/c is a significant upgrade over the stock a/c even though the under-dash vents look abysmall. The dash itself is pretty wavy. Par for the course on a leather dash of this vintage. Very expensive repair. Just ignore it. The sunvisors have been replaced. These are incorrect for the car. But they work, so just ignore that.

The seats are the very desirable factory sport seats, correct for this car. The last pair I sold were cloth covered and went out the door for about 1,000 bucks. Keep these even if he keeps them on a shelf. The targa top on this looks very good as do the seals. The 7/8 wheel option is a nice upgrade. The tail lamp lens are european. Looks cool. Needs the H4 headlamps though to really pull it off.

I suspect the reserve on this is high. Beautiful car, great color combination, low miles and very good condition with desirable options. Bear in mind, the market is really sad right now for all Porsche's. The 23K he lists as high book is a pipe dream right now. In this market, even as nice as it is, this is probably a 16-18K car. If someone really really loves it and it checks out mechanically, it could, however, prove to be a long-term bargain even if you did spend a little more than that.

angela
When Angela talks 911, people listen!

Especially me!

Thread drift begin: I found a trigger wheel and sensor mount for CHEAP to fit a 911. Now I am thinking full EFI/ignition(Megasquirt or Gotech) for my RS wannabe, dual plug 2.7 screamer. Minimum will be crank-fire ignition, which should cost around $250 tops to do.

I guess I'll hold on to my Jerry Woods 12 port dizzy until the market improves.

End drift.
Just sent my used spare twin-plug Electromotive setup down the road. Had everything, sensor mount, wheel, computer, 6 DFU's and mount, and 12 plug wires. It was the only set of purple 911 Clewett plug wires I've ever seen. Did pretty good on that sale. I'm pretty sure the guy didn't buy it for the purple wires though - LOL!

Also sold the spare cabby top, cabby mounts, and cabby engine mount. Had already sold the car it was going onto as a roller.

Somewhere I have another cabby engine mount, I just can't remember where the heck I put it...

I'm about two steps from hiding my own easter eggs! If I die unexpectedly, just come over to the house and start rooting through stuff. No telling what I have pack ratted away!
angela
That Utah 911 SC is still up but here is the million dollar question. Having owned a 1989 951, the chance of passing the CA Smog on NOX was slim and none. I passed each time by an extensive tune change and then by only one point. Does anyone have any experience with this 3.0 SC (circa 1980) and the CA smog nazis?

Fred Adler
San Diego

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My 81 spent all of it's previous life in/around San Francisco (I've had this one about a year and a half). It passed emissions every time. I do not have a record of who tuned the car. In fact, I didn't even get the engine when I bought the car, but I did see it - all emissions equipment was still on it. I did notice that all the vacuum lines and injectors were new, clear evidence of recent work. That likely figured strongly in this car's good history of passing emissions.

The CIS cars, in stock configuration, are still passing emissions in CA. Good mixture adjustment, sound injectors and otherwise good tune seems to get them through. There are people who are very good at fine tuning the marginal ones and those same people are capable of getting slightly modified CIS cars through. The guys on the Pelican site can probably help you with the exactly "who" is the guru to take it to in your area. Though there's probably people who who can answer that also (lotta air cooled junkies here).

Hope that helps.
angela

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