2.7 L Twin Plug Type IV FOR SALE

email me for pics: ovalerio23@gmail.com

I uploaded pics in my folder for all to see...oscar7823

Thanks

Oscar, those look GREAT.
You built them?

interesting to see both plugs on top.

any pictures of the builds? (ie: chambers)

also - were you going to post a price, or do it through email?

(i'm not in the market (just finishing off my spare T4), but very cool none-the-less

If it's for sale then it needs to be listed in the CLASSIFIEDS. Post price and location. NOTE - ads on the Forum are only for personally owned items - NOT for commercial offerings unless you become a sponsoring vendor.

I have lots of pictures of build, along with a full binder of documention of components used. Copy of dyno too. These were built a number of years ago and have been sitting...the black one sold for 8k. nothing but the best was used....i have proof I paid over 11k/ea.

I am asking best offer.....

I am open to a trade (truck preferred)

Oscar

I do personally own this (red) engine...I am not a dealer or a builder

Thanks

Oscar, that seems like a reasonable price for a well-documented, professionally put together Type IV, especially considering what some folks are asking.

Mine isn't nearly as pretty or as pedigreed, was built with 'bin parts' and still cost me body parts. Twice.

Mango -- I love you, Dude, so don't take this the wrong way ... but I hate you.
Spare engine? Did'ja have to just casually throw that out there?

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Jake Raby built this motor(and it's twin) a number of years ago, like 5 or so? For whatever reason the two cars were never finished and there is a sweet powerplant left for sale.....

What is the gear for on the end of the crank?

Danny P....you are correct!!!! this engine was built by Raby and thus top notch, but since it's been sitting it will need to be broken down and gone thru, so I'm willing to listen of realistic offers or trades that are fair.

that is a pretty damn reasonable price for that motor. T4's are not cheap to build. For anyone considering a T4. i feel like i have enough torque to tow a boat in my speedy. they are awesome.

and Michael - that is a crank-fired ignition trigger wheel.

(sorry Cory, it's not a nutso engine if that helps)

Oscar---engines don't get any better looking than those. Why was that fan cover used rather than Jake's DTM? Wonder how well those cool?

Good luck--whoever scores these bad boys is going to be a very happy
person.

These engines were built in 2000, they were the last engines that I produced for the TIV that used the 911 cooling system. The builds were started in 1999, I remember that day very well.

Oscar was the original buyer, he has had a really bumpy ride with his builder (who never did deliver after 11 years!) and is in a crappy situation.

To build that engine today, my price would be 18-20K, **IF** I decided to accept the build. The parts used to build these engines are no longer available at the quality thats inside this one. What Oscar is asking is a steal.

The engine will need the valve springs replaced, since the engine has sat static for 11 years with springs compressed.. If not they will break shortly after being fired up.. Also the "black" engine was sold 3-4 years ago and was shipped to me for refresh.. Both engines were used as door stops and the black one was super dirty inside, even though it had never been fired up.

If someone buys the engine from Oscar I will work it into my schedule for a refresh just to help him out.. My backlog is currently 13 months, but I can get it knocked out by spring if someone buys and ships to me soon.

Oscar, what happened to you was far from fair.. Maybe someday that vendor will screw the wrong guy and they'll put his ass out of business.. Or at least give him the bitch slap that he deserves.

Stan, get your checkbook out. You know you want to.

BTW- The "Gear" on the crank is a 60-2 tooth trigger wheel for the direct ignition set up.

Geez this sounds tempting but maybe overkill for me and my basic Beck. Jake, maybe you'd care to PM me with what you think your end of that offer you mention might cost me? Maybe my 1 5/8" Tangerine exhaust could be put to better use. Anyone else out there interested in a fresh 1911 Type 4 (3000 miles) that could go towards financing this switcheroo might want to contact me as well.

Oh no! Rich, now Im gonna be smelling your exhaust all the way to Carlsile:-) Maybe its not too late to get that Turbo?

Rich,
This engine was built to be optimized with a 1-3/4" exhaust system. The 1-5/8" would work but with some impacts on tuning much like you have experienced with the bigger exhaust on the smaller engine...

BTW_ I received your email and replied.

Jake, seems I just can't win with that exhaust system. Haven't seen your e-mail response...yet(?).

Jake - can you provide an estimate for the refresh?

Refresh is all labor... Few parts are needed, unfortunately I have to charge as much to do this work as starting from scratch, as it takes just as long. That's a 6,000.00 expenditure..

What kinda dyno specs we talkin'?

When the engines were built they made 180HP each.. Our technology has come a long way since then, today 220HP is the minimum an engine of this displacement produces.

The differences are all camshaft/ cylinder head related, so this engine could produce the same very easily. Today all our engines larger than 2430cc utilize roller camshafts and lifters and Nickies cylinders.

whose making roller cams and lifters, for type 1. bill

Several people make them for the Type 1.. All we create is based on the Type 4 platform and I have developed my own (and manufacture) roller cam/ lifter arrangement for the Type 4.. I started developing this in 2004 and have finally started outfitting engines with it after several years of R&D for my 2012 program.

My Wife's car has utilized a 2270cc roller cam engine installed since 2007, I drove it 14,000 miles last year alone.. 30 MPG+, CHT less than 325 and 150 RWHP makes it a great daily driver. The power band is unreal, its like driving a big block V8.

Jake--we all appreciate your being a "donating merchant"---we don'r see very many of those blue dots!

Jack,
Thanks for noticing that.
I have been a member of the group since it was still an email list.. I decided to donate a few bucks to keep it going.

Will you take a kidney for it?

Marty-

As much as I'd love a monster Type 4, I'm pretty committed to the platform I've got. At some point, you run whatca' brung.

Hi Jake,
Russ Crosby here. Hope all is well with you. Could you tell me the manufacter of the shrould on the red motor.
Thanks,
Russ

sharpbuilt manufactured these shrouds....from Australia

check out their website.

I understand that the engine has been sold...

New Owner:
For the record I'd like to state that this engine MUST have the valve springs replaced prior to start up. Two of the valve springs in this engine have been compressed for over a decade and they are guaranteed to be "dead".

Expect the carburetors to be thoroughly filled with debris and dead fuel. Approach with extreme care.

Thank you, Jake...as if you didn't know.

I know too.

The eagle has landed.

Have fun.

Just don't let the Eagle fly head on into a wall by cutting corners. 11 years is a long time to sit static, I KNOW what happens.

Jake. I believe you, but every week, I see these guys like Wayne Carini start these 50 year old barn find cars up and they run. Did they just use better quality steel back then?