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44 IDF Webers leaking gas - follow-up

FM Former Member
To follow-up on an earlier post where I found raw gas leaking down the center venturi straight into the engine (type 4).

I had previously run the gas tank dry because the gauge said I still had 3/8 tank. Apparantly some time before that I got bad gas and some water accumulated in the bottom of the tank. Emptying the tank sucked the water right into the dual Webers. Short while later the crappy running and gas leaks started.

The Weber man (Tony Grasso, Strictly Carbs) disassembled, cleaned, and polished all parts. Now runs perfect. Man did the water ever do a number on the brass and the carb case itself (really hard water here in San Diego). Tony is now my Weber jeweler. Hopefully a bit of denatured alcohol into the gas tank has dispersed the water now.

So beware of running out of gas in areas where you have hard water. And beware of gas leaking undetected down the manifold, into an open intake valve, down the cylinder walls and diluting the oil in the crank case, all of which happened to me. My shake down run was up to Knott's and back. Ran like a champ. Enjoy the trip!.
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FM Former Member
To follow-up on an earlier post where I found raw gas leaking down the center venturi straight into the engine (type 4).

I had previously run the gas tank dry because the gauge said I still had 3/8 tank. Apparantly some time before that I got bad gas and some water accumulated in the bottom of the tank. Emptying the tank sucked the water right into the dual Webers. Short while later the crappy running and gas leaks started.

The Weber man (Tony Grasso, Strictly Carbs) disassembled, cleaned, and polished all parts. Now runs perfect. Man did the water ever do a number on the brass and the carb case itself (really hard water here in San Diego). Tony is now my Weber jeweler. Hopefully a bit of denatured alcohol into the gas tank has dispersed the water now.

So beware of running out of gas in areas where you have hard water. And beware of gas leaking undetected down the manifold, into an open intake valve, down the cylinder walls and diluting the oil in the crank case, all of which happened to me. My shake down run was up to Knott's and back. Ran like a champ. Enjoy the trip!.
Gordon NicholsGordon NicholsMassachusetts 1993 CMC Supporting Member
Also, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER buy gas at a station where the big tanker truck is there delivering a load.

As that new gas is flowing into the stations tanks, it stirs up all kinds of crud from the station's tank bottom that you'll end up just pumping into YOUR tank, clogging YOUR filters and carbs and causing all kinds of havoc.

Simply choose to go to another gas station. The work you'll have to go through to clean out everything just isn't worth it.....
FM Former Member
To get rid of water in your gas tank, my Weber"jeweler" advises denatured alcohol, available from Home Depot or any paint supply store. He advised about 1/4 cup for 8 to 10 gallons (I got a 14 gallon tank). Back east we used to call this stuff "Dry Gas", and applied it about once a month in winter months. The alcohol serves as a dispersant, and breaks up water droplets into tiny bits, which then pass through the combustion process and leave via the tailpipe. In small amounts this "water injection" is not harmful. Don't get carried away with excessive alcohol.

This is common practice among power boats and especially rag sailers who seldom use the gas engine, and where gas tanks are subject to very humid surroundings (humidity condenses on inside of tanks and collects over time). That is why I always store the boat with a full gas tank - to keep water condensation out. I believe many boaters use their cooking alcohol (probably ethanol?) in this application.
JogyverJogyver
Don't worry too long Calif will have the Ethanol additive sooner than you think. You won't have to worry about the tank water. So get ready for that price increase. $1.89 -$1.98 for regular here near Chicago. Last week it was $2.05. And taht with the ethanol supply practically in our back yard. And just think a 16 oz of bottle water is around a buck.
Ron ORon O1984/2010 IM, B.C. Canada
David, I know that there is a considerable difference in the value of the Canadian dollar and the American dollar, but I paid, for 94 octane gas, $1.08 per LITRE. That, my friends, is $4.50 per gallon. Okay, it's an imperial gallon, so it's...what 20% larger than an American gallon...but all the same...$4.50 per gallon! And my 911 powered single cab gets 15 miles to the gallon..gulp!
Ron
T TUBB
Hey Ron are those Canadian Miles Or US miles? :-)
When my father died in 1960, He was an engineer in charge of George Washington University's (in D.C.) facilities; heat, water, air conditioning, electrical stuff etc. He earned $10,000 a year. Gasoline was around .20 a gallon. If he had that same job today I would think he would be pulling in $200K at least; gas is 1.80 to 1.86 for regular. I know you all have heard this before but its true. If I were getting 15 mpig, I would be coasting down hills with about 80 psi in the tires and drafting semis on the interstates.
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FM Former Member
Simon, I feel your pain. Many years ago (like 35 or so) I had lunch with a visiting dignitary from England. We had a delightful chat about road racing. He mentioned that he had an MG with the "large" 1800cc engine. He asked me what I drove. It was a '67 Corvette fastback with a 7000 cc engine. He just got this blank expression on his face and mumbled something like "I can't even imagine . . ."
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