Yea, but the tag is....Geez.
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Kevin,
The Reverend and I were at a Lawn Event hosted by one of the Porsche Registries/Clubs recently. I NEVER imagined how snobby they were and how much the 356 guys loath the replicas.
The treatment was out and out RUDE, to the point that it might have legally crossed the line.
I was beyond surprised. That plate doesn't surprise me at all, not now anyway.
TC
The Reverend and I were at a Lawn Event hosted by one of the Porsche Registries/Clubs recently. I NEVER imagined how snobby they were and how much the 356 guys loath the replicas.
The treatment was out and out RUDE, to the point that it might have legally crossed the line.
I was beyond surprised. That plate doesn't surprise me at all, not now anyway.
TC
Tom:
Ahhhh.....you must have been with our friends from the NE PCA....... ANOTHER good reason to be part of this group!
Ahhhh.....you must have been with our friends from the NE PCA....... ANOTHER good reason to be part of this group!
So does the plate mean it is not a 'plastic imitation'....or could it possibly be a typo and signify his payments are current and the repo man should stay away??
Bill,
Good one. You know it is kind of funny but Kevins picture made me think,"another nice replica" Maybe only their hair dresser/barber knows!
Comments on the PCA members, I've found that the PCA members out here in Oregon are supportive of our tubs. At Parts Obsolete in June we were nestled right in with the "real" guys and no problems whatever. In fact Scott Sloans wonderful IM took first in the open class against a strong contingent of open 356's. I truly believe that the 356 guys realize their cars are nearing 50+ years old and becoming too valuable to be bopping around the country side. In a way I almost think they envy us because us guys don't take a stone chip or two very seriously. Tell those east coast guys to loosen up a little! I got a lot of questions on my JPS and I'm sure the other SOC guys did too! Room for everyone in the collector car scene, too bad some people are so up tight.
Less than two weeks for the Southern Oregon Tour, still got time to join the fun! Drop me a note for more details.
Bruce, "The Eagle Point Guy",,,(sorry Gary, couldn't help it)
Good one. You know it is kind of funny but Kevins picture made me think,"another nice replica" Maybe only their hair dresser/barber knows!
Comments on the PCA members, I've found that the PCA members out here in Oregon are supportive of our tubs. At Parts Obsolete in June we were nestled right in with the "real" guys and no problems whatever. In fact Scott Sloans wonderful IM took first in the open class against a strong contingent of open 356's. I truly believe that the 356 guys realize their cars are nearing 50+ years old and becoming too valuable to be bopping around the country side. In a way I almost think they envy us because us guys don't take a stone chip or two very seriously. Tell those east coast guys to loosen up a little! I got a lot of questions on my JPS and I'm sure the other SOC guys did too! Room for everyone in the collector car scene, too bad some people are so up tight.
Less than two weeks for the Southern Oregon Tour, still got time to join the fun! Drop me a note for more details.
Bruce, "The Eagle Point Guy",,,(sorry Gary, couldn't help it)
I take it to mean that, for whatever sad unfortunate reason, the car's owner is unable to reproduce.
Eunuchs never can. Neither can a mule - a cross between a horse and an ass.
Sounds like our replicas have a little more stature in those parts than their local PCA folks are willing to admit; if it's more important to classify their cars are "not repros" as opposed to original??
Doesn't help their arguement any that they feel they have to denote this fact on their plates - if repros are so far inferior shouldn't you be able to spot one on site?
Of course, there is the other test: when one speedy blows the doors off another, the one that's faster, handles better, won't rust and gets better fuel economy is probably the repro!
JMHO - and not directly to the more enlightened of the PCA membership.
MM
Doesn't help their arguement any that they feel they have to denote this fact on their plates - if repros are so far inferior shouldn't you be able to spot one on site?
Of course, there is the other test: when one speedy blows the doors off another, the one that's faster, handles better, won't rust and gets better fuel economy is probably the repro!
JMHO - and not directly to the more enlightened of the PCA membership.
MM
Off topic, but having to do with Lawn Events . . .
Gordon (and other New Englanders) thres a lawn Event this Sunday for VW powered cars at Larz Anderson. (More info in "EVENTS" section) It's gonna be weird to revisit the "scene of the crime" and not be abused this time. I wanted to tell you that everytime I tried to snap a picture of the engines, for details and such, the Porsche Boys either crowded around blocking my shot, or closed the lid right in front of me! I felt like a porscherazzi . . .
RUDE!
TC
Gordon (and other New Englanders) thres a lawn Event this Sunday for VW powered cars at Larz Anderson. (More info in "EVENTS" section) It's gonna be weird to revisit the "scene of the crime" and not be abused this time. I wanted to tell you that everytime I tried to snap a picture of the engines, for details and such, the Porsche Boys either crowded around blocking my shot, or closed the lid right in front of me! I felt like a porscherazzi . . .
RUDE!
TC
TC,
Now that is downright weird! Maybe they thought you were going to rush home and reproduce a 1600 Normal to insert in your engine bay.
Guess they haven't realized that we may have a "real" Porsche in the garage also. Also I have a feeling that some of us are considering buying one in the future and their rude actions turn us off. Go figure..... Looks like the left hand coast PCA people aren't quite so anal.
Bruce
Now that is downright weird! Maybe they thought you were going to rush home and reproduce a 1600 Normal to insert in your engine bay.
Guess they haven't realized that we may have a "real" Porsche in the garage also. Also I have a feeling that some of us are considering buying one in the future and their rude actions turn us off. Go figure..... Looks like the left hand coast PCA people aren't quite so anal.
Bruce
You know, I went on one of the "other" 356 forums the other day just out of curiosity. One thing I noticed missing right away was the comraderie that I feel is present in the SpeedsterOwners club. Too much snobbery about Tours D' Elegance and Concours this-n-that. I am so happy with my Speedster replica you just can't believe it. I had an old '72 911E about 15 years ago and it nearly ran me into the poor house. It was beautiful and fast and I loved to drive it but I was always so paranoid about something breaking down and costing a fortune, or somebody stealing it or crashing it. It was finicky on certain gasoline brands, and very temperamental in general like many old cars are, plus it spent most of the time in the shop. Don't get me wrong, I love the older "real" Porsches but I do not have the desire to own one again.
Now I am so thrilled to be able to drive a classy "new" vehicle that is so simple to work on and very reasonable to maintain and insure. I'd much rather have it than any other new vehicle out there in the $35K range (except, of course, if I won the BIG lottery I'd maybe buy a NEW Porsche). And, I'd much rather read the SpeedsterOwner's Forum than those OTHER forums!
Now I am so thrilled to be able to drive a classy "new" vehicle that is so simple to work on and very reasonable to maintain and insure. I'd much rather have it than any other new vehicle out there in the $35K range (except, of course, if I won the BIG lottery I'd maybe buy a NEW Porsche). And, I'd much rather read the SpeedsterOwner's Forum than those OTHER forums!
Right you are, Beth, about the friendliness of this forum. Other car specialty forums, besides Porsche types, do not have the same degree of closeness which is so apparent on this one. Maybe part of it is that it is still a manageable size and many of the frequent posters have been "cyber buddies" for quite a while. I hope nothing changes. Theron has done a wonderful job of bringing us together.
John H
John H
I think people on the east coast (away from the water) are wearing undergarments that are about 3 sizes too small. Just an observation from 60 years here.
ed
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Geez Loiuse!
I'm glad I live right on the water! Makes my unner-wear feel down-right loose!
Of course, according to Jake, I must be running lean, too, no matter WHAT my A/F gauge says!
The Boston PCA crowd isn't all snooty - I know a few of them personally and those are OK folks, but there are a LOT of others there who feel that us re-production crowd are just decreasing the value of their museum pieces - and let's face it, we ARE. They've spent a whole lot of Limperas on their Porsche's (BIG "P" there), and, for some obscure reason, they feel that they DESERVE to be respected for their purchase. After all, we're driving Volkswagens!
I really don't let any of those folks get to me. When you see them on the street (whether or not you're in your Speedster) they always have a very, very serious expression on their faces. Whenever you see one of us, we have this BIG grin - what's that tell you? (other than loose unner-wear, of course) I recently was passed on a turnpike (slowly, mind you) by a couple in a 968. He was scowling at me, and she gave me a smile and a wink - nuf said.
Most of the time, the "real" Porsche drivers see this picture:
I'm glad I live right on the water! Makes my unner-wear feel down-right loose!
Of course, according to Jake, I must be running lean, too, no matter WHAT my A/F gauge says!
The Boston PCA crowd isn't all snooty - I know a few of them personally and those are OK folks, but there are a LOT of others there who feel that us re-production crowd are just decreasing the value of their museum pieces - and let's face it, we ARE. They've spent a whole lot of Limperas on their Porsche's (BIG "P" there), and, for some obscure reason, they feel that they DESERVE to be respected for their purchase. After all, we're driving Volkswagens!
I really don't let any of those folks get to me. When you see them on the street (whether or not you're in your Speedster) they always have a very, very serious expression on their faces. Whenever you see one of us, we have this BIG grin - what's that tell you? (other than loose unner-wear, of course) I recently was passed on a turnpike (slowly, mind you) by a couple in a 968. He was scowling at me, and she gave me a smile and a wink - nuf said.
Most of the time, the "real" Porsche drivers see this picture:
The San Diego Auto Museum had a Porsche display for several months this summer. When visiting, I was studying a very nice 550 Spyder from behind the viewer control ropes. The metal work on the edges of the wheel wells looked a bit suspect. On further examination it became obvious it was not metal but fibeglass. Subsequently I found a sign neatly shoved under the car and behind one of the wheels defining it as a replica donated for the show. I pulled it out so all could see what a fine replica looks like. I guess even the museums sorta recognize the replicas these days.
I passed a guy yesterday, going in the opposite direction that is, driving a silver Boxter. I got a very large look and point, a sure sign of recognition. Respect, I'm not sure, but at least I got a his attention. I should have given him a big grin, but unfortunately my unner wear was too tight. I'll be sure to purchase larger sizes in the future.
Couldnt agree more with Beth comments, plus added performance, classy looks (most people dont know the difference) and no paranoia with any "dust spec" landing on the car while driving around. It does not get better than that. Check out current issue of Hot Rod Mag, there reproducing 1969 Camaro bodies in steel, they said a Mustang will follow... could we get to a 356 or a Split Window someday? - my $.02, Cheers - JJ
Rumor is Porsche is going to start production on the 356-2. Available in Coupe, Cab or Speedster configurations. Going to be built in the old V W plant in PA. Engine will be a Wankle rotary, keeping it a all German drivetrain. Porsche's motivation is the growing replicar movement and they want to cash in on the craze.
You heard it here first.
Bruce
You heard it here first.
Bruce
As Johnny and Gord have said; I've gotten stares and pointed fingers at me from other real Porsches like 911's and Boxsters that I pass by on the road. These replicas can be made to look almost exactly as the real thing so that for the layman it's almost impossible to tell the difference. Let's face it; these cars attract more attention on the road than a brand new Ferrari; at least that's my experience. With respect to how snubbish some of the Porsche owners are I always say that Porsche & VW owners are linked to the point where almost invariably, if you like one brand you like the other too. In my book VW's are as cool as Porsches. I like the guy's license plate, by the way.....
At a supersprint event with the local Porsche club a mate took this shot after I left the pits for lunch........a couple of them look like they have just been sprung with the hand in the cookie jar. I hope the president never sees this photo.....
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ed, whats with the underwear comment? who wears any?
Bruce
Well, I do. The older you get ...
What I mean is alot of people in the great metro complex of Boston to Richmond Va act like they are walking around with a permenent wedgie. They need to chill.
ed
Well, I do. The older you get ...
What I mean is alot of people in the great metro complex of Boston to Richmond Va act like they are walking around with a permenent wedgie. They need to chill.
ed
Bruce
The answer to you question, at least for us significantly over the hill may be....depends.
The answer to you question, at least for us significantly over the hill may be....depends.
The day I have to wear those things, is the day I take my car on a one way drive..
Depends! Great for the long drives to the shows. Mine are too tight, though (It's an East Coast thing).
Lets take a survey; which is it - briefs or boxters ?
This forum is very friendly. Even more than the spyder forum. Just like the speedsters, it looks like you guys just like to cruise and make everyone feel good.
By the way, is porsche really looking to start producing speedsters again?
David,
It was a early April Fools joke but John Leader posted a thread a few months ago about Porsche investigating a low cost entry level sports car, front engine I believe and water cooled. I saw the same article in one of the car mags also. Be interesting to see if anything comes out of the idea. Maybe look for an "idea" car in a few years at one of the auto shows. That's what they did with the Boxter to guage reaction and it was so good, they built it but at a higher price than first proposed.
As they say, "We'll see."
Bruce
It was a early April Fools joke but John Leader posted a thread a few months ago about Porsche investigating a low cost entry level sports car, front engine I believe and water cooled. I saw the same article in one of the car mags also. Be interesting to see if anything comes out of the idea. Maybe look for an "idea" car in a few years at one of the auto shows. That's what they did with the Boxter to guage reaction and it was so good, they built it but at a higher price than first proposed.
As they say, "We'll see."
Bruce
Funny, everytime I pass a real 550 the owners always wave and give the thumbs up.
I think it's because all Spyder owners usually run commando.
I think it's because all Spyder owners usually run commando.
let the boys breath
Did anyone look closely at the car. Is that a vintage dash? Maybe this guy is in denial
How about a "no repro", or "real 356" licence plate on a repro? Obfuscation! That would put the tea sippers skivvies in a twist. I think this is why rock and roll and heavy metal got so popular - bcause it got into someone's face real bad. Attitude man!
I switched from boxers, not Boxters, pleeeeeze, to briefs after suffering constant razzing from my roommate when I was in the USAF. He constantly referred to them as "crawlers" to which I retorted with a comment about the "b... and a.. grabbers" he wore. I waited until after I had been separated from the service so he wouldn't have the satisfaction of knowing that he won me over. This was, after all, a heated battle......a lot of tempest in a pot of tea, so to speak.
Bruce; that's the real McCoy....
This debate is endless. If we all drove 32 Ford Hot Rods and went to a Deuce event virtually no one would care whether it was steel or glass rod as most people got over that issue a long time ago. They all know it takes almost the same cash to build either. Now the antique Ford crowd might think different but look at the value of a rodded Deuce vs. a stocker. Heavy towards the rod.
Now quite the opposite situation exists in the value of steel and glass Speedsters and I don't see the prices dropping on the real stuff, therefore the "investment" strenghtens over time. They have to be happy and they since don't want to have the car to drive particularly let them trailer their car to the lawn and enjoy their investment. Just watch out for those trailers and trains..OUCH..!
We all know there are exceptions in every crowd so meantime let us enjoy driving and/or showing our cars and not worry about it.
Life is short, get out there!
Rick
Now quite the opposite situation exists in the value of steel and glass Speedsters and I don't see the prices dropping on the real stuff, therefore the "investment" strenghtens over time. They have to be happy and they since don't want to have the car to drive particularly let them trailer their car to the lawn and enjoy their investment. Just watch out for those trailers and trains..OUCH..!
We all know there are exceptions in every crowd so meantime let us enjoy driving and/or showing our cars and not worry about it.
Life is short, get out there!
Rick
I second Rick's emotion. Thanks for posting that Rick. Jim
Damn the stone chips, full speed ahead!
I find it very interesting that most of the older people I have met that own 356's and are "Porsche snobs" are people that DID NOT own foreign sports cars when they were younger, and indeed probably turned up their noses at imports back then...