DISASTER! &@#%£!!

I felt the same when my trans went tits up 9 hours from home.  Hang in there's. This too shall pass.

I just shoved my phone underneath and captured what I could...

I could start this off with another bad weather joke but I won't.

I wish I knew the magic words that would make your pain go away but I don't think there are any.

I'd call the shop that did the oil change and give them a heads up in case this all comes back on them. If it's a full service shop that can do air-cooled I'd get it back over there, drop the engine, and see what's up. If it's torpedoed and unsalvageable I'd get on the phone with @Pat Downs and see what can be done for a replacement. You can use quite a bit of what you have in there and he'll guide you in the right direction.

Of course, the shop isn't open on Saturday.

I'm going to have her towed there on Monday or Tuesday.  I'm confident in the place -- I certainly don't suspect foul play, or even incompetence. I'm just not sure, of course, where the trouble lies.

It seems like a huge coincidence that I'd suffer a complete oil-related engine failure fewer than 24 hours after a competent oil change, doesn't it? 

Cory McCloskey posted:

Of course, the shop isn't open on Saturday.

I'm going to have her towed there on Monday or Tuesday.  I'm confident in the place -- I certainly don't suspect foul play, or even incompetence. I'm just not sure, of course, where the trouble lies.

It seems like a huge coincidence that I'd suffer a complete oil-related engine failure fewer than 24 hours after a competent oil change, doesn't it? 

 

That's why I'd let them know ASAP so they don't think you did something else if in fact it is there fault. Send an email or call and leave a message so there is a time stamped record of the notification.

Good advice, @Robert M. Will leave a message now.

Just for schitts and giggles place the car in neutral and see if it will roll freely............

Put an adjustable wench on the crank pulley and see it it will rotate.

Have you tried to crank it now that it's cold ?  

...........Then, a moment of silence.  

Nooooooooooo! Did engine or trans locked? Which is it?

I'll try, Alan. I did push her home in neutral, so I know she rolls.  Lemme go out to the garage and try to turn her over...

Here we go...

Lemme get a wrench on the pulley... Forgot to try that, Alan.

Wow, Can you see where the oil leaked out?

I'm dying over here for you Cory! It'd be right over if it weren't tax season (for moral, not mechanical, support).

I don't understand. I thought the dipstick read full? I wonder if the oil pump pick up tube came off? Or got clogged?

Sucks man. Sorry to hear it.

Yeah, @TRP... I'm wondering, too, how the dipstick can read full.  It was the first thing I checked.  

And, @Bill in Hawaii, I can't see the leak.  There wasn't a DROP underneath the car this morning, so, either all 5 1/2 quarts blew out after the oil change and I made it home just in time last night, as the last drop fell onto the street, OR, the oil's still in the motor, and something else has gone to heck...

Ryan, wrong pully, the one down below. But you're right not good.

Do you have an external oil filter and cooler?

This nut was so loose, I could turn it by hand. Did the trauma of seizing cause this?

Put a wrench on it and see if you get any pully rotation

Tried to wrench it, but no movement...

Sorry

We can rebuild him, stronger, faster...

If only we had access to Oscar Goldman's unlimited government resources, Bill...

Lol...Welcome to the "Madness"!

Get back to that shop! Let us know what they have to say. Are they aircooled specialist or the local Jiffy Lube?

May not even be their fault and just a mechanical failure.

Some SOC experts will chime in over the weekend and help guide you through this.

Talk about bursting your bubble...

Are you sure it's still out of gear? The car rolls freely with the handbrake released?

Also, the photos you posted of the oily bits underneath were of the transmission.

Is the engine itself oily, too?

If the engine had dumped its oil, it probably wouldn't have flowed onto the transmission. Unless your oil cooler is mounted ahead of the transmission (it is on many Speedsters) and that started leaking.

Sacto Mitch posted:

Are you sure it's still out of gear? The car rolls freely with the handbrake released?

Also, the photos you posted of the oily bits underneath were of the transmission.

Is the engine itself oily, too?

If the engine had dumped its oil, it probably wouldn't have flowed onto the transmission. Unless your oil cooler is mounted ahead of the transmission (it is on many Speedsters) and that started leaking.

 

My thoughts too.  Oil from the motor won't flow to the trans like that. And the distortion of the nose cone is strange

It's a solid shop, Bill. Air-cooled guys for 30+ years.

Good, then they'll get you back up to speed. Best of luck resolving this quickly.

Hi Cory,

I'm so sorry about your engine, That really sucks!

I hope you don't mind if I ask you who built your engine.

Blasco

The pulley nut being loose won't necessarily do anything, since the alignment with the alternator pulley is still good (it's not throwing the belt). Ideally, the crankshaft pulley is a zero clearance or ever so slight press fit onto the crank so it's not going to move around and the bolt is still there so I'm guessing it hasn't actually been loose for all that long. Since a wrench on the crank pulley nut doesn't move it (and the transaxle isn't locked up- it still rolls in neutral, right?), sorry to say it doesn't sound good. While it's out it will give you a chance to figure out where the trans oil is coming from.

On the plus side, we get to plan another engine (oh boy!!!). How much power do you want and how much money have you got? I know this isn't what you want to hear, but we can make this so much more fun...

Cory, this is really a bummer. I'm getting my car next week and yours goes down now. When you put a wrench on the pulley bolt, were you able to rotate the engine? Is it truly seized?

Cory, I have a stock engine you can borrow. My son and I are getting our cars ready for the Bugorama next weekend in Fontana or I'd help you pull your engine and put the stock one in just to get you back on the road.

I can deliver the engine to the shop you're using if that helps any.

What an awesome gesture Paul!

Aces,  Paul Ellis!!!

It will be a noticeable reduction in power, more like an original 36. But it has twin baby webers.

My key board isn't working, I said 36 and meant 356

Holy cow, @PaulEllis!

 It's like I rubbed a lamp, and YOU popped out! You're the nicest, pal!

I'll get a diagnosis on Monday afternoon or Tuesday after towing to the shop, and we'll see where things stand... 

Paul Ellis -- his first Speedster's still on a transport from Texas, but he's already another example of why the members of this group make these cars even more fun!

@Blasco...

This may have alrady been done, but could you have someone sit in the driver's seat, push the clutch pedal all the way to the floor and then, while it's held down there, have someone else try to turn over the engine with a wrench on the crankshaft pulley bolt (clockwise turn, and it's a 30mm wrench needed).

My thought here is that, with that much oil gunk on the transaxle case but little or none on the engine case, the tranny ran out of oil and seized, locking the input shaft.  Taking it out of gear freed up the axles (so you can still push it) but the input shaft is still locked.  Depressing the clutch pedal mechanically releases the engine from the transaxle and should (if my premis is correct) allow the engine to turn.

Give it a shot - What'cha got to lose?