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Cars and Coffee is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get.

I really don't know boo about really old VW's and I thought I'd seen old. But today, this rolled up.

The guy told a great story about just how old this is and he could have been making a lot up, but he had me convinced. Anyone care to venture a guess as to the year? I'll tell his story after you've guessed.

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(If you know what the round hole in the sheet metal at the bottom is for)

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Okay, give yourself five extra points if you guessed right about the round hole:

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If Will needs to hang out with some real intellectuals (the pretentious kind). I can supply him a couple from my extended family. My area of expertise is pretty pedestrian: no dissertations on Goethe or Kierkegaard. I completed exactly one morning of higher education, unless you want to count the magical time I spent with the knuckle draggers in trade school.

Yep-- I'm a real fart smeller'. 

 

Okay, the bidding is closed and we have a winner!

Al wins the case of Brad Penn oil and the complete setting for 12 of Melmac dinnerware.

It is a '46, or at least it is claimed to be a '46. The current owner (of three years) says the guy who restored it said the car was delivered to a US army base in Germany in 1946.

If that's true, it would have to be one of the first cars to roll off the line after the British military rebuilt the bombed out Wolfsburg plant. Supposedly the British occupying Germany needed cheap transportation for their own use and restarted production for that purpose more than to jump-start the German economy.

The owner explained that this was the only '46 produced with a roll-back canvas top. So, either this car is an extremely rare original or some creative welding was involved in the 'restoration'. I seem to recall that the rear split windows of the really old cars were smaller than what this car has.

The story continues that the engine is the numbers matching original of 1131cc and 25-hp. I'm starting to think if all this is true, the car should be in a climate-controlled museum and not at my local C&C. At any rate, I don't think the neighborhood NAPA parts store is going to have one of those distributor caps in stock.

What may be most amazing is that Herr Porsche looked at something like this and thought, "Yah, we've got the makings of a real racing machine here."

 

Interesting stuff, Mitch! I've always been under the impression that the rear split windows were all the same. 

Bob- There's not a lot of differences between years in that era (not a lot that are plainly visible in those pics, any way). I based my guess on the assumption that anything much older wouldn't be driven around to something like a C&C...

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Well whadya know?

Just found this article with lots of pictures of another 1946. It looks like the C&C car just might be legit, after all. Most of the details - including the engine - are the same.

The original design used a Solex carb which, immediately after the war, wasn't available in West Germany (the old Solex factory being in East Berlin). So apparently, VW made their own - which was pretty crude but worked.

It looks like you can at least get to the idle jet without skinning any knuckles.

 

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