Daniel, thanks for the info. I found this on Samba. It shows the front toe at +.25 inches, unless I'm reading it wrong.
And like I said before, a positive number for toe-in in Bentley means toe-IN.
just looking at that eighteen million dollar? alignment set-up on the sebring car
one thing I can say a string doesn't lie
one thing I can say a string doesn't lie
Well it looks like I've been dealing with performance stuff a little to long. I stand completely corrected on the front toe in issue. I did some web surfing and now understand where I went wrong. When we tuned our suspension like Bruce did his, we found that with a little toe out the car was quicker and more responsive to steering inputs. However we both had already made adjustments to our rear suspension (add more possitive toe) thus tighting the suspension up, making the car more stable. This is not the case for standard VW suspension as the adjustments are very limmited and was never meant to travle at todays speeds and never at a lowered ride hieght (which changes all the angles). At anyrate sorry for confusing the issue. Here is what I found.
With toe-out, the inside tire in a corner turns with a greater angle than the outside tire (as it should). This improves the grip of the front tires on corner entry.
In addition to corner-entry handling, toe affects straight-line stability. Toe-in improves stability while toe-out worsens stability. This can be explained through the same reasoning as was used to describe corner-entry handling. Toe-out encourages turn-in since the inside tire turns at a greater angle than the outside. Hence, the car is sensitive to the slightest steering input. Toe-out will make the car wander on the straightaways requiring corrective steering. The car will always be turning unless the steering is perfectly centered. With toe-in, the inside tire fights the outside since the inside is trying to trace a larger radius arc than the outside. As a result, toe-in discourages turn-in and makes the car less sensitive to steering input. In other words, it is more stable.
With toe-out, the inside tire in a corner turns with a greater angle than the outside tire (as it should). This improves the grip of the front tires on corner entry.
In addition to corner-entry handling, toe affects straight-line stability. Toe-in improves stability while toe-out worsens stability. This can be explained through the same reasoning as was used to describe corner-entry handling. Toe-out encourages turn-in since the inside tire turns at a greater angle than the outside. Hence, the car is sensitive to the slightest steering input. Toe-out will make the car wander on the straightaways requiring corrective steering. The car will always be turning unless the steering is perfectly centered. With toe-in, the inside tire fights the outside since the inside is trying to trace a larger radius arc than the outside. As a result, toe-in discourages turn-in and makes the car less sensitive to steering input. In other words, it is more stable.