another coupe on Samba - burgundy

Three cars available, well Moto you have choice  

I'm pretty happy with my IM. My next choice will either be a BMW 2002 or an Alfa GTV 2000 (or 1750).  Too many cars, too little garage space.

I happen to be looking at a 2002

not sure where i would put it and the parts are getting scarce and once you get it 

it can easily become a big dark hole if you want to make it perfect Arrgh 

A roundie Ray?
Original parts are hard to find, but who wants them? Loads of aftermarket parts and upgrades. These have yet to hit the "collectors" table. They are getting really popular largely because of the ease of modernizing. Relatively easy to work on too... Here is a nice video on a great job done by a young man. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J74Qkuk1l4
 I am hoping to find a good rustless body on a roundie and might do a resto mod to it. Depends. (Right now timing is not good . Fighting some health bulls**t.)
But later this coming spring... look out.
For me I prefer the look of the Alfa GTV. (I have had 3 Alfas - I must be a sucker for punishment.)

But the 2002 is  a much better built and more sound car to turn a bolt on....
In short - Go for it Ray!

Wait a minute . This is the speedster forum. Got a little off topic a tad . ;-)

IaM-Ray posted:

 

...it can easily become a big dark hole if you want to make it perfect...

That probably won't discourage anyone who owns a Speedster.

Here is very nice 1976 2002... IMHO only missing a/c to make it a great retro daily driver.

https://youtu.be/ICMSnedTBQc

AC is the sticky issue with these. Kind of frowned on by the 02 crowd. But I would certainly drop a retro air in it. Makes it much more usable (heat / allergies) in my part of the country. (n GA).
But yeah L. It looks great!

Jay makes that 2002 look tiny! 

There are 2 cars I wonder why nobody has splashed a mold off of:

Longhood 911, and BMW 2002

I suspect it has something to do with the worry about Porsche and BMW's legal department, but it'd be super-cool if somebody were to do it. Both cars are very desirable, but horribly prone to rust. I really hate rust. I got into speedster replicas when the price of an IM was about 1/2 an original. It's 1/10 now, and likely to get even worse. I'm still happy with the decision to go 'glass.

Anyhow, regarding the V8 2002: forget a M5 V8,  I'd love to see somebody stuff an LS or small-block Ford in one. The older I get, the more I appreciate American pushrod V8s (and German pushrod flat 4s).

As far as the longhood: if somebody made a glass early 911/12 SWB knock-off with a tube frame and integrated rollbar, I believe I'd jump on that wagon. Slip a big dry-sumped Type 4 back there with a 915, and never look back.

Rainy fall day dreamin'...

There is the Covin 911 replica in the UK.  Started off as VW pan based but later ones have a custom 150 mph capable Covin tube chassis.  Not sure why they aren't popular in US especially with escalating prices on even the 912E (now $25k or more).  (Maybe due to  right hand drive?) I'm sure Porsche AG is not happy with the Covin.

http://www.covin.co.uk/

http://www.covin.co.uk/covinforum/index.php

Stan, there's no point in copying the 2002 as they are readily available for under $30K

Here's one example under $30

Here's another (way) under $20K

Stan buddy, Ims are still half the cost of an original. :-)

That depends on the build of the IM. 

Bob: IM S6 posted:

That depends on the build of the IM. 

Of course ... I was saying - current prices for original 356 and  currrent IM prices.

Seems to still be about half.  $180k vs $90k.

True.

But an IM is twice the car...you can really drive it. 

It all comes down to what you want in a sports car - either a show car/investment (you hope) or a driver.

To each his/her own, as they say, and that's the way it should be.

I think most of us on this forum will sing in harmony with you on that one Bob.

MotoCarlo posted:

Of course ... I was saying - current prices for original 356 and  currrent IM prices.

Seems to still be about half.  $180k vs $90k.

I'm unconvinced. Yes, an IM with a Porsche 6 is half the cost of a nice coupe, but find me a decent OG speedster for $180k, and I'll buy it and immediately resell it at a $100k profit.

Will Hesch posted:

Stan, there's no point in copying the 2002 as they are readily available for under $30K

Here's one example under $30

Here's another (way) under $20K

 

This is probably true, and there probably is no market for them. But as a midwestern boy who spent WAY too much time in the late 1970s trying to make a silk purse out of a rusty sows ear-- I really, really hate rust. Rust never sleeps. Ever. '02s started rusting in Bavaria.

I think they started rusting before the steel was pressed into body parts, personally.....

METHINX the numbers are off just a bit?  An IM6 circa 2017 is $125,000 plus or minus a 5 to 10K as per cost/build of the donor 6 cylinder. And yes, very drivable.

I always like to say, they were rusting on the boat on the way over...

for you guys that like 02's, here mine

Sylvio G. posted:

for you guys that like 02's, here mine

NICE!

Ooo Silvio. Killer!

Very Nice.

man I love this car everyone fits in it , its fast ,handles like its on rails, has working behr ac, and gets compliments everywhere it goes.

When you want to sell, let me know.