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Ready to take on another build.  Last one was a VW based sand rail.  Sold it recently and bought an unfinished CMC.  I think I enjoy the building more than the ownership.  lol

 

Just getting started and will make progress as money and time allows (two boys in college).  I think I have a great start.  It was never completed, but some of the difficult stuff is done.  It has a really nice pan that has rectangular tubing along the sides and flat sheet metal in the pan area.  The shortening of the tunnel has a nice lap and solid welds everywhere.  The pan has been blasted clean, but not painted. 

 

It has a 70 IRS pan with Ghia discs on front and Empi discs on rear, all 4 bolt.  I don't have calipers.  I have a reconditioned transaxle (never been installed in anything) and a single port engine that is supposed to run (but you know how that goes!).  The body was originally red gelcoat.  It has a nice grey paint job, but has many scratches and dings from being moved around over the years.  I want it red again (or mango green)!

 

I have many of the parts to complete it, headlights, taillights, other hardware, seats, top, tonneau, windshield, etc.  However, I find that there are many things I still need.  For instance, all bearings, ball joints, tie rod ends, etc. will be replaced due to wear and/or sand from blasting the pan.  My sand rail took three years, I hope this one goes a little faster!  I sometimes get bogged down in the details, because I really like the details.  lol

 

I am sure I will have lots of questions.  I have been hanging around here for months and see that there is a wealth of knowledge and talent.  I look forward to this project and sharing info with others that love these cars!

James

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Welcome, James. You're off to a great start and as someone that enjoys the building process I think you'll have fun with this one. You're quite a ways further along than me but you've still got some fun ahead of you. What is the name of the color on there? I thought for a second it was grey but now I'm seeing aquamarine.

 

~Bryan

Thanks for the comments!  I really did love the sand rail, but it was time for a new project.  When the new owner came to look at it, I didn't really expect to sell it.  But he drove it, offered my asking price and then drove away in it.  I almost cried.  Lol.

The next day I put a down payment on the Speedster.  My wife was glad that I didn't let the money burn a hole in my pocket! 

 

Alan, I will be checking classifieds in case you post something that I need.

Thanks for the info on the pan.  I have already dealt with the butt sag.  I hauled the car 700 miles on a trailer, across some really rough highways in Oklahoma.  When I got home I noticed the rear end was floppy, not good.  So, I researched the butt sag problem on this forum.

 

I drilled out the rivets, used bolts, aluminum flat bar and epoxy to sandwich the fiberglass sidewalls to the 2x2 frame.  Then I noticed the 2x2 frame flexed more than I liked.  So, I built tie bars with threaded rod ends and connected the rear ends of the 2x2 frame to an upright support that I added inside the door column area.  I was able to tension the tie bars individually to adjust door gaps and the rear is very rigid now.

 

My current project is cutting and re-fiberglassing the area for the steering column.  I am building an authentic looking steering column using a Nardi wheel. 

 

My next issue to address is getting the rear wheels to fit under the fender wells. I got a set of 4 bolt, chrome Mangels with the deal.  They are 5 1/2" wheels off of a VS.  The rear passenger wheel has clearance, but the driver's side does not.  There is a 1 inch difference between the face of the hubs to the inner lip of the fenders when measured from side to side.  My current thought is to try to shift the body on the frame approx. 1/2 inch, then use different offset wheels or 4 1/2" wheels on the rear.

 

Once the two above issues are resolved, I am removing the body to refurbish and paint the pan. 

Originally Posted by James:

 

 

...My next issue to address is getting the rear wheels to fit under the fender wells. I got a set of 4 bolt, chrome Mangels with the deal.  They are 5 1/2" wheels off of a VS.  The rear passenger wheel has clearance, but the driver's side does not.  There is a 1 inch difference between the face of the hubs to the inner lip of the fenders when measured from side to side.  My current thought is to try to shift the body on the frame approx. 1/2 inch, then use different offset wheels or 4 1/2" wheels on the rear.

 

Once the two above issues are resolved, I am removing the body to refurbish and paint the pan. 


James- If the car is a swingaxle, earlier axles and tubes from about '60 or '61 to 1966 (I think) are shorter; '67 are about 1"(?) longer and '68 and newer are another 5/8 or 3/4". You can narrow irs trailing arms 1" for more fender clearance as well; driver's side (I think) type 3 automatic axles are the right length and you'll need 2.

Originally Posted by James:

Mine is IRS.  I have considered narrowing the trailing arms, however the cost of the new axles is more than a new set of wheels and a lot more work!

I can't believe I'm saying this, but Empi lists a brand left side type 3 auto new axle/cv joint assembly in their catalog; you just have to find the dealer that will sell you 2. I was under the impression that they weren't that expensive, and it's one of the few things from Empi I would spend my money on. Al

Alan, I have thought about that.  I work for an engineering company and we have a sister company that is a full blown machine shop.  Several years ago, I cut apart some golf cart wheels and widened them by welding in a rolled ring.

 

My question/concern is how true does an automobile wheel need to run?  There must be specs on allowable runout, but I have not been able to locate anything yet.

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Originally Posted by James:

Alan, I have thought about that.  I work for an engineering company and we have a sister company that is a full blown machine shop.  Several years ago, I cut apart some golf cart wheels and widened them by welding in a rolled ring.

 

My question/concern is how true does an automobile wheel need to run?  There must be specs on allowable runout, but I have not been able to locate anything yet.


the runout allowed on most factory wheels is 1/8".

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