BAS Exhaust / Raby 2270 combo..... any picures out there?

Soon my 2270cc Raby T4 will arrive with the BAS exhaust system. My plan is to fill up the rear wheel wells of my flareside with some wide tires. The big question for those who may have the combination is ...How much clearance do you have between the mufflers and the inside side wall of the tire? If any one has some pictures I sure would be grateful.
Joe S
Phase 2 begins

Thats the combination I have and the answer is not much. Send me an email and I'll send some photos to you. Bhambloom@cs.com

I have a 2056 TIV with a BAS header. No body yet, but yes, the clearance will be a little tight. You can probably adjust things a bit in tough, you just start to have some clearance towards the valve covers.

This photo might give you some idea of what you might have

BAS Header

Chris,
Is is possible to take a picture of the clearance you have? I need a view from the rear at the muffler level.
Thanks
Joe S

Very nice set-up Chris!
I read these posts and often think I'm sooooo glad I didn't go through the anxst of the building from the ground up, and then I see a photo of the obvious great care and expertise you've achieved...
WOW
MM

Ditto, Chris! Eddie

Chris, who needs a body?

Slap some seats in that thing, a steering wheel, throw on a pair of goggles and tear around! You'd have the baddest go-kart on the block!

Joe ... I did a Raby T-IV with the BAS exhaust in a "C" flared speedster .....plenty of clearence Best to have the sections tack welded wehen it it fit correctly It sounds great w/o too much noise and runs like a bear!

Are the mufflers inline/beneath the body structural tubing? Or are they more inboard?To gain more room I may raise the structural tubing .

Joe S

They are inline and under the structual tubing and there is plenty of clearence.

Chris nice work ! Thanks to both you and Alan.
Joe s

It all fits really well.....looks like a maze, but its simple!

Joe, the engine is a shortblcok today! Should be a longblock on Sunday,and dialed in by Wednesday. Dynoed Thursday and to you right on time!

Joe - Just added some more pictures. Hopefully this helps. Note, the tires I have on right now are crappy skinny temporary things so you might check with others who have wider wheels.

Photo Album

I have a Raby T4 with the BAS exhaust .. I only used 1 muffler though as I like the SOUND better. There are some pic's under my file "Bobs VS".

Bob, I couldn't find 'Bobs VS' in our file section. I wanted to have another look at your engine/exhaust set up. I too will be utilizing one muffler, but it will be Tangerine Racing's creation.

Some time back you asked me about the tranny for my new engine endeavor. I've decided to have Jake build it to match the engine, so it'll be a 4 speed VW-based box with gears to provide me lots of oommpphhhh.
MM

Paul went the best way, as did Joe S. They got the entire drivetrain from me, thats a no brainer, it just all bolts right together!

Paul went with the Tangerine system, it looks, sounds and performs amazingly! INCREDIBLE!

Jake, do you ever use the Porsche 914 5 speed transmission with your cars, or is it too difficult to install the Porsche 914 5 speed in a replica?
Ron

To see the picture of Bob's T4 try "RCB" in the files section.

Paul .. If you want additional pictures let me know

Jake .. We well talk about your trans next year. The T4 still runs
great!!!!!

I just started to do some work on getting my BAS Exhaust installed now that I have my body on the pan.

I'm going to have to do a little modification of things to get it to fit. The BAS mufflers hit the rear body frame. One alternative is to let the mufflers lie a little flatter, but in my case I think it will interfer with the tires. So I decided to do a little cutting and modification to the rear body frame.

One picture is below, but I have a bunch more on my build site.

Joe, did you get your engine and exhaust in yet? Did you have any problems.

Even with the modifications I'm doing I will still need to have someone do a little bending to the stock BAS exhaust tubes that run down and under the transmission.

Let me know how they all fit.... I have only seen minor mods needed to this point.

Chris, I'm not even close to putting the motor in. My body frame and pan is now permanentlt welded together. I have tied everything together to add strength , eliminate wheel hop, and eliminate body flex. The car is solid as a rock. It even has a crash cage behind the rear seat for a rear collision. Hope it never happens.
Is it possible to flip the muffler 180 degrees? Make the inlet at the top. The other option is to raise the side frame rails a few inches. You would have to step the sheet metal for the engine tin sheet metal. I keep you posted if I come up with something. I have lots of body work to complete. I hate stress cracks!!!!

Jake: I've got the same question as Ron O>>>>>> Do you ever use a Porsche 914 5-speed transmission or is it a PITA to install in a replica?

Gordon (and Ron O)

You really can't flip the muffler. You will see once you get it all.

Using the 901 gearbox is easy to make happen... Just flip the diff. Bolting it up is another story (into the car)

I work on 914s all the time, but the tranny is expensive to work on, and has a crappy shift pattern.... Better off with a beetle box modified to a 5 speed if you ask me!

Chris, If the muffler were be straight up/90 degrees how much clearance is required to clear the upper frame rail? I may cut the rear frame rail and raise the entire length. I need some dimensions if you wouldn't mind.
Thanks, Joe

One more question Chris. Looking at your pictures - Are there two 2" square tubes welded together( side by side) next to the muffler area?
Thanks again
Joe

A beetle box modified to 5 speeds is still a weak transaxle; the 911's 901 5 speed is much stronger and the shift pattern is not difficult to use.

I dont think having the muffler straight up (90 deg) will work. Yes, from the pictures it does look like there are two square tubes welded together, but that is just at the front.

The square tube I cut into needs to be out where it is so that the engine compartment is large enough to get the engine in from the bottom.

Chris,
My Speedster is a CMC /Fiberfab- What is your inside spacing from side frame rail to side frame rail?
Joe

Joe,

Just over 33".

Well, I did it. I raised the rear frame rail 2" to allow for the clearance for my BAS muffers.