Beck 904 GTS Roller on BaT

Nice find.

Dear Santa...

I could never fit in that thing ...  

I sat in a Honda 2000 once, rather I slid in.... and I had to have my son pull me out    I finally came out on all fours 

I could fit in the 904, not sure I’d want to get out. 

I got into (and successfully out of) Randy Beck's race car that Carey brought to Carlisle a couple of times.  That car has a full roll cage, making entry and exit doubly difficult, but once inside it was comfy, even in the tight racing seat.  If I could afford a 904 I'd certainly have one on order.

"The seller reports that the car is wired, plumbed, and configured for an air-cooled Porsche flat-six and 915 transaxle." 

Now, there's a sweet combination.  I can only imagine driving something such as that.  

Seriously, that is a nice looking car.

I think the challenge with the 904 is how do you keep from having your foot in it?   Jay Leno said it right, my Aventador is a bit boring, I mean.... cliik click click, and I am flying at over 100mph, and in such a  big wide, large car.  

I got out of riding motorcycles as I needed to always find how fast the thing could go  

@IaM-Ray

You are exactly right.  Even just driving easily, when you slide it into 5th with just the weight of your foot on the pedal it gently cruises at about 100...  and then when your buddy (AKA Randy Beck) jumps all over your a$$ and you drop it into 4th and put the hammer down, you find yourself in the 140-160 range before you know it.  Of course things like this only happen on a closed racetrack with experienced drivers.

"Of course things like this only happen on a closed racetrack with experienced drivers."

lol, that was funny Carey  

I do think you need a track budget after that  

IaM-Ray posted:

I got out of riding motorcycles as I needed to always find how fast the thing could go  

There's 2 of us!

Fastest I ever went on the earth's surface... A pic of the GPS on my BMW K1600GTL Exc motorcycle.   Nevada highway approaching Vegas!  Crazy!  I know! But, you have to know where they set the electronic limits.... right? 

Rev limiters can be overidden   Using counter measures  

A friend from the New England 356 club wants a 904 so I put him in touch with Kevin AND gave him that BaT link - I think he's bidding on it.   We'll see what happens, but it should be interesting to see what the final bid is.

Well, thanks a lot Gordon.  I was hoping to get it for around $12,000...

Bob: IM S6 posted:

Well, thanks a lot Gordon.  I was hoping to get it for around $12,000...

Yeah, good luck with that. 

There's also a 2.0 flat 6 from a late '60s 911 on BaT right now.

Bob: IM S6 posted:

Well, thanks a lot Gordon.  I was hoping to get it for around $12,000...

Too late $13,900 with 6 days left. Plenty of time.

I'm willing to go to $14,000, but no more...

Without an engine, I'd have to push it home.

I would sell my Speedster to have this in my garage next to my Coupe I'm building... The Beck 904's were the first thing I looked at before getting into this Maddening Madness...

Not me .... 

WOW. That is pretty much exactly how I'd order the car......

I'd bet you could fix that blemish on the spoiler and get a new headlight cover fairly easily.

IaM-Ray posted:

Not me .... 

I'm with you, Ray! The top down motoring part is what it's about for me. You guys can keep your coupes and your 904's...

Why not have both?

I'd love to do that 904 up with a big Type 4. But I wouldn't keep it. It's a race car and it acts like one; on public roads I think I'd quickly be frustrated. And hot. And deaf(er). 

I still want it though.

I was thinking  Subaru 6 cylinder 3.6 cc Tribeca engine with Subaru 5 Speed with air and heat.  Would need lots of Dynamat though.

Nah, though. Fussing around with radiators in that thing would be a drag. And then all the heat from the coolant lines. And then you want to do A/C and all that, and pretty soon the damn thing weighs 2000 pounds and it's not what it's supposed to be anymore. 

And it still wouldn't be comfy or fun on long highway slogs. . . 

Best thing is to help it be what it has to be, which means a smallish 911 engine or a type 4—unless you happen to have a Polo mill or a 2-liter Type 547/3 loitering on the back bench of the shop.

IMHO:

In a 904, it's got to be a Porsche 6. That's the thing with something like this-- there's not a lot of room to color outside the lines. People expect the 6 when you open the back. Anything less would be a letdown.

That's why I'm glad to start with a more plebeian car and work backwards. A big, bad Type 4 would be my go-to for any replica besides the 904. I kick myself nearly every day for not buying the Raby 2.6L that ended up in Rich Drewk's Beck.

If I had a Polo, I'd put it in an early 912. If I had a 547, it'd have to go in a Spyder. Probably a real Spyder, which means I'd just sell the engine.

I know you're the dictator, Stan, but as the official Court Jester it's my job sometimes to 

Lime Rock, 2015. 

And here's your brace of Porsche enthusiasts, upon spotting the above four-cylinder abomination:

So, so disappoint.

Off with their heads. 

We have completed on water pumper, using an 07 GT3 engine with a flipped G50.  Track only car,  and designed with a ultra lightweight aluminum birdcage frame replacing the 304 stainless tub.  It was a test mule project but with just over 400hp at the wheels, and a wet weight of 1500lbs... well, you know the rest.

Due to the ever increasing price on aircooled engines, we are also in the midst of prototyping our GTS with Boxster/Cayman drivelines.  The first Boxster powered prototype chassis is at Chuck's and nearly completed.  Once he's done with it, it returns here for a body and then off to LN engineering for computer work.

Wil the Boxster Caymen engine make it way into the SC coupe?

@Marty Grzynkowicz Yes, but Im doing the first 6 (already all sold) as Subaru and then we'll branch out.  The engine cradle was designed with Cayman/Boxster in mind.

It's almost like the 904 could benefit from 4-6" added in the middle for a street car.  I don't think it would change the looks but would allow for "over-size" Americans.  For the street, you're aren't looking for a race car tight fit and not all owners are built like horse racing jockeys.  AC would be mandatory for most in an enclosed car (hey, I'm in humid FL).

@WOLFGANG we added 2.5" over original specs anti bought a ton of room compared tot he original.  Firewall is set back slightly also, BUT you can only go so far back when there's a 3.6L 993 mill sitting behind you.

AC is something we do often, however it requires a "bump out" in the firewall behind the driver and rescues leg room by an inch or so, thus many people go without

"when there's a 3.6L 993 mill sitting behind you."

And, it's quite a nice feeling...  

I like Greg(Wolfgang's) idea of the Tribeca motor and a 5 speed. I happen to have a 5 speed, and also know where a Tribeca 6 with harness is located. That motor is only 2 inches longer than an EJ25, so AC in a 904 becomes do-able. The big intake in the 904 nose is tailor-made for a watercooled motor. 250 hp stock, cheap, and reliable. I'm sure it could be massaged a bit.

I really want to put that motor in SOMETHING! I don't think it matters anymore what motor you put in any replica.

Yeah, a 993 motor is awesome. 

The thought of getting a 6 subie in a replica would be awesome but better in a mid engine car.