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I was just on the Sypderowners makers section just to check it out and I saw Beck Development as a maker of the Spyder. Is this the same BECK that Special edition imports? Some of the Sypders and Speedsters have more names like GT etc not found on Special Editions website. Also when I click the link for Beck Development on the Sypderowner side it takes me to "Automotive Legends of Malibu, Ca." Do they import the same BECK cars?

Beck Development, Special edition inc and Automotive Legends of Malibu, Ca. Do they all import the same BECK cars?
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Hello everyone
I was just on the Sypderowners makers section just to check it out and I saw Beck Development as a maker of the Spyder. Is this the same BECK that Special edition imports? Some of the Sypders and Speedsters have more names like GT etc not found on Special Editions website. Also when I click the link for Beck Development on the Sypderowner side it takes me to "Automotive Legends of Malibu, Ca." Do they import the same BECK cars?

Beck Development, Special edition inc and Automotive Legends of Malibu, Ca. Do they all import the same BECK cars?
Shawn,
Very short version:

If it is a Chamonix built "Beck" then it was imported by my father, and came through my facility, period. Chuck Beck Motorsports went out of business, but that was our product too. Automotive Legends has bought my kits, as well as cars from Vintage and Thunder Ranch. They rebrand them as their own, or sometimes as a Beck... I'm pretty sure they have been covered here before.

Carey
Cary:

If automotive legends is an assembler and they actually only assemble forwarded parts and semi-constructed pieces to complete a "build" it makes me wonder if Automotive Legends stands behind the parts they assemble and sell.

I think it would be interesting to hear from people who have purchased cars from Automotive Legends and Boulder Speedsters and other assemblers who are way out the food chain to get an idea how such middlemen effect the process, the quality, the price and aftermarket service,

I doubt there are many on this web-site who have bought from these kinds of operations, but still it might be an interesting topic.



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Bill,

I was done dealing with independent assemblers after dealing with BSC. What I found is this: there isn't a great deal of mark-up in our cars, so the guys who woulkd buy kits and assemble them on thier own would try to cut corners to make an extra buck. I found, too many times, a cheaper engine or cheaper gearbox to make a few bucks. Very short sighted. Couple that with shop turn-over, lack of customer service, lack of knowledge, and lack of quality control, and you have a recipe for disaster. You wouldn't believe some of the things I saw done to cars. Quite frankly, I got tired of following behind some of these guys and cleaning up their messes, even after I was done with them. I just couldn't let the customer sit with no resolve.
I cut my ties with BSC over 18 months ago. I don't think they could possibly still have any kits in stock, but who knows... They had conrtracted us to make new Lister tooling for them (well before all the "mess"), and I understand they are trying to make this car currently.

When AL contacted us, it was clear that they didn't want to make "Beck" cars. They wanted to build the Automotive Legends brand. So I sold them a starting point for their own product. I even flew out to their Camirillo facility and helped them sort through a few snags in the process. The work was nice and they had Russ from Fibersteel doing a bunch of custom work on their cars too. Once again, turnover in the shop, etc... and someone new is building the cars. I cannot say anything about their current quality, as I just don't know. The quality that I saw first hand was very nice, and the "extras" that were done by Russ were top notch.

That being said, there are plenty of shops that would do a bang up job. We have sold kits to Chris Radbill, Bill Metcalf, and a few others that do this sort of thing on the side. Independent shops that buy a handful of my kits (and others) at a slight discount to fill some down time, and have fun. These guys can still buy my stuff, because they KNOW what they are doing, they have good (or at least descent) customer follow up, and they create their own relationship with the customer.

Regardless, no more "dealers" with the ability to build a "kit". Most they can do is complete from a roller (i.e. add engine) and maybe a few options, but they also MUST be clear that they are an independent shop performing this work and these things are not "factory" completed.

As for price: it just depended on the area, time of year, shop, etc... Most of the ones I saw were in line with my MSRP pricing. BUT, I would see a shop with several kits in stock, that needed to turn that back into working capital, and would cut prices to do so. On the other hand, some of the shops would have a considerable mark-up, over my MSRP. I guess you can't really call it mark-up, since they set their own labor rates, added their own accessories, etc... but it was higher priced than coming to me, nonetheless.
Honestly, what ever works... no skin off my teeth. My price is my price... bottomline. We are running at full capacity (125-150 cars per year) and we are sold out every year.
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