Bivens for sale (Boyds 356 wheels with Rudge faux spinners)

The same guy that buys that $135,000 replica 356 will probably also buy these.

Alternatively - SMC is now offering the TecnoMagnesio Light Alloy Wheel. They look great!

https://www.sierramadrecollect...s/products/35529.jpg

Those would be the ultimate; what's the cost on those, Ted?

Right now? Too much.

They were released by SMC pretty recently so they are still trying to fetch $3200.00! for a set of 4. Makes those 2500 Bivens seem pretty reasonable! Although I have to admit, I like the grey TecnoMagnesio a little bit more.

 

Still outside of my reach.   I could do a lot of stuff with 3200.00!!

 

Live and learn,
Ted

 

 

Those TecnoMagnesio with drum-skins and Carrera type spacers/lugs would be KILLER! 

I think that's what Max Handly ran on his bad ass outlaw.

 

I just can't justify 3k in wheels... can I?

 

T

Yep, you'd really have to be in love to spend that kind of money for wheels.   

 

I've been watching the Velocity Channel  B&J auction.  Apparently there are no limits as to what can and IS spent on cars.    If you want it badly enough......  Do we have any Ron Pratts in the group?   He was building 45 houses A DAY.    I did a little rough calculating and he might have been netting 1/2 million A DAY (maybe more maybe less but plenty) .   A fellow would be challenged to spend it quickly  enough.   

 

Thread drift.....   Wheels and tires really do make these cars and I'd like to do something but some one would really have to do a sell job for me to spend that kind of money.  Maybe seeing them in person?  Carlisle maybe??   

Well, Scott Sloan's outlaw IM, to be exact .   Max only owned it for a while.

 

That was one very nice car.

Doh. You are 100% correct. Scott did the leg work and created a masterpiece. I gathered my data point from a quick (halfassed) search. I saw the photo and read the name next to it. My mistake.

 

Thanks for the correction!

Ted

That depends; how bad do you want to have one of the most badass outlaws around?

 

Another alternative. One of the few non-OEM wheels I like on a 356. These are the aluminum spare wheels supplied on the 944 Turbo. I used to think they, too, were super expensive, but I'm seeing a few (expired, sadly) offerings on eBay for under $200 per wheel. So, hard to find, but apparently reasonably priced if you can.

 

This was on a real Speedster I spotted at a car show back in September. And oh -  quick quiz time - anyone recognize the hard top?

 

 

 

 

 

I've never heard of Bevin's wheels. Are they steel or forged aluminum. What's really special about them, very light weight?

They're aluminum, very light, very well made, and as the ad shows, very expensive.

Glaspar. I had one on a JPS-- beautiful, but didn't seal for spit.

 

I've got the billet AL Biven's wide 5s on my car. Mine came off of George Brown's car when it was sold to a guy in Houston who wanted to run moon caps and chromies (?). The wheels were selling for about $3k/4 at the time, and I paid $1800/5. When I got them, they were really rough from the abuse they had suffered. But in a case of really warped perspective, I thought I had stolen them. I spent probably 40 hours brushing them "just so" with 600 grit wet-or-dry and scotch-brite green pads, and then another $300 getting them clear powder-coated. It was right about then I knew I'd lost my mind. When I first started looking at this the hobby, I thought I'd be able to get a complete car for what I've got in my wheels and tires, but my choo-choo had gone around the bend some time ago.

 

The Technomagnesio wheels Max put on Scott's car are made of Magnesium and weigh about 12 lbs per, which is lighter than just about anything out there. However, Most wide 5 disc kits are crazy heavy, so everything gained with a 12 lb wheel is lost with a 10 lb hub/rotor. Even with a CB kit (with AL hubs) a wide 5 set-up just weighs more than a Porsche 5 drilled hub. There's a reason Porsche got away from it when they did.

 

From a form-follows-function standpoint, the widended Porsche spares on 911 hubs/brakes are all that. Weight in the hubs/wheels/tires is unsprung weight, and greatly changes the way a car feels. Lighter= better. A guy can spend a LOT of money trying to make something look cool AND work well. You've got to stop somewhere, and everybody's sweet spot is going to be different. Contentment is a great thing.

 

However, in the whole "too much is just about right" vein: if I ever built another car (what am I saying?) it'd have a full 911 front suspension, 944 brakes, those wheels, that top, and a BIG 'ol twin-plug, dry sump Type 4.

 

The car in the picture is gorgeous.

Stan:

 

I always enjoy reading your posts.  They are such a mix of sage wisdom and wry humour (usually self deprecating!).

 

Don't every leave this hobby.

 

With powdercoating I've got about $1000 in these wheels. Steel 356C replicas. Got $300 for the old ones. However I love those aluminum 944 spare wheels. I'm going to start looking for 4 to put away for a rainy day.

Stan's Choo-choo continues to my house and keeps going.

Marty

Are those chromed 944 spare wheels?  If they are I'm assuming they are the same size in rear.  How is the traction with suby power?  Are they 15 x 5.5?  BTW stunning look.

Can I reserve a seat on that train?

I think Marty's "current" set of wheels are made by Boyd Coddington's son's outfit. They are good looking!

They look very much like the 944 spares.

       
       
Don't kid yourself, Stan - your wheels are gorgeous. You did an amazing job on them.

The story of the Alex Bivens wheels per the 356 registry...
Alex did a lot with custom and hot rod cars. He was approached by a friend and customer to see if he knew who could supply a billet wheel for the 356 community. Al knew a friend who worked for Boyd Coddington who would supply the wheels basically out the back door. While not a full billet wheel a stock 356 center section was scanned into a program. The big issue was a 5.5" hoop is not a commonly made size. Alex faithfully soldiered on thought the tough development months/years of these wheels. A limited number were made before Al passed away. The quality and rairity of the wheel command a premium.

A 5k premium? Not from this train conductor!

6 inch rims custom made by the same guy who CNC'd for Bivens.  The are cut at the Coddington Factory.  6061 billet 11 lbs of jewelry.  Exact copy of the 944 Turbo spare I purchased from eBay.

Yeah Phil, they really do. My memory may be off.....imagine that.

       
       


Marty - was the CNC guy named Mike or was it another operator? I wonder if Boyds son, Chris will keep the wheel shop running? The wheels shown above are beautiful. If you break it down per wheel, 5 k with tires and lugs and center caps isn't that horrible.

       
       


Bob, your are already on it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PORSCH...vxp=mtr#ht_49wt_1015

 

Looks like they are running about $300 a pop.  Obviously they would have to be powdercoated or chromed.  But only 5.5" in the back.  But that's what I'm running now.  Hmm.

Only 5 1/2 inches?  Mine goes from six to eight - my new car, that is.

 

Phil. Your current setup is pretty cool.

The IM6 is really going to his head...if you know what I mean.

I wish they made wheels like that in the 4 bolt pattern

Polished Bivens Wheels on Ruby