I saw that this was discussed years back, and I'm having no current luck on finding a source for black 12 x 1.5 open end, ball seat luck nuts. I did find a 50mm wheel stud conversion, but was hoping to find an option of lengths. I did see that Fiberspeed sells a black lug kit, but since I am running the Vintage 190 wheels, the studs would be too short. Any other suggestions?
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Hi Eric.
I prefer these bullet nosed extended wheel studs and have bought the M12x1. 5 studs in a 65mm length several times. Hopefully, they will have what you're looking for.
Thanks @Troy Sloan ! exactly what I was lookin for!
I have the same studs and nuts that Troy speaks of on my Speedster. I run with brake drum covers and no hubcaps. Wide 5 wheels. 
Great resource Troy. I'm bookmarking that one!
I ordered the lugs nuts.
They didn't have the black studs available in anything but silver, at this time. I found some black 50's on Amazon 
Thanks Again!
Dang. I wish these guys would have come up in the google search I did. I bought from a place my Porsche racer buddy suggested and the step between the drum threads and the lug nut threads is too big and they won’t work with steel wheels. I threw them in a box for when I get 190’s.
@dlearl476 I actually had the same issue with a set I had ordered from Tire Rack. The step was too big, even with the 190's.
i used studs(long like that) i think the one rear wheel w e brake i had to grind down on the inside as it was hitting something it shouldnt have..?
M12 x 1.5 do not appear to be available in black oxide. 🥲
I do recall that I had to use a 1/4" spacer on each stud to compensate for the step. I also recall that I had to do a small modification to a rear brake shoe spring to keep it from touching the studs. I added a washer to the back side to pull it in slightly. That problem was only on the drum brakes.
Black oxide coating kit:
https://www.eastwood.com/metal...Euy52GhoC6wQQAvD_BwE
@Eric N posted:@dlearl476 I actually had the same issue with a set I had ordered from Tire Rack. The step was too big, even with the 190's.
Really? Well that’s a blow to morale. After I mocked up a loose drum with a couple of studs and a spare wheel, it looked like I only needed an 1/8” to make it work.
With the stock width beam on my Spyder, I don’t have room even for a washer behind my wheel.
@Troy Sloan posted:I do recall that I had to use a 1/4" spacer on each stud to compensate for the step. I also recall that I had to do a small modification to a rear brake shoe spring to keep it from touching the studs. I added a washer to the back side to pull it in slightly. That problem was only on the drum brakes.
On top of the drum skins? That won’t work on my Spyder. I don’t have the clearance on my front wheel wells. Maybe I’ll reconsider running a die down them and adding 2-3 more threads on each end of the studs. It’s not off by much. I assumed the thickness of the 190’s would cover it.
