Blue Speedster on Ebay

Brand new with only 10 miles.  Warranty = as is !

Never seen a door topper like this:

I don't know what it is, but the color doesn't sit quite right with me- it just doesn't seem to be a Speedster color.  And the car needs to come down about 3".  Maybe if the car was lower, the color wouldn't look so off...

You know, you're right about the height. I thought it was the whitewalls.

I think the white walls and dark painted rims throw the look off.  What make is it? - I've not seen the door striker like that or the 3x3" door topper.

Here we go again with eBay allowing a Dealer to advertise its acknowledged "reproduction" as a "Porsche." Do you think it will be scrubbed, or has eBay's corporate palm been greased well enough to satisfy them and/or the real "P" Polizei?

@Napa Paul posted:

Here we go again with eBay allowing a Dealer to advertise its acknowledged "reproduction" as a "Porsche." Do you think it will be scrubbed, or has eBay's corporate palm been greased well enough to satisfy them and/or the real "P" Polizei?

There really isn't ANYTHING Porsche lawyers can do to people selling reproductions nor can they legally keep eBay from allowing them to be sold as long as the car isn't being misrepresented as a real Porsche. Porsche lawyers threaten eBay and eBay doesn't want the hassle so they remove the listing. If you pay eBay A LOT of money as a sponsored seller/dealer they'll back your play and not delete your listing.

The only thing the Porsche lawyers can keep from being sold on eBay are unauthorized reproduction items that contain trademarked/copyrighted designs/images such as the wheel crests, hood crest, and other badging. But if you buy authorized restoration items containing the Porsche logo/design I'm not sure how the lawyers can keep you from selling it.

Anyway, they get away with what they get away with by swinging a very big indiscriminate hammer.

@wrkinprogress posted:

You know, you're right about the height. I thought it was the whitewalls.

If you're going to run whitewalls (which I'm not really a fan of on Speedsters- they look too North American to me) the car needs to 'right down in the weeds'.

So car is located in Palm Springs but will ship from Reno NV?

Anybody recognize the shop from the shop photos...JPS?

@Jon T posted:

So car is located in Palm Springs but will ship from Reno NV?

Anybody recognize the shop from the shop photos...JPS?

They continuously referenced “the best builder” or some variant. I’m thinking it’s the guy that bought Vintage Speedsters from Kirk and moved it to Arizona. But I don’t know enough about the car to make a determination.  

It looks like a new VMC Speedster. The shop pics are VMC. The short throw shifter is standard on 2021 VMC builds. I saw a couple of other bodies under construction there last week with the sme color. The ad is full of hype. The engine is not the "high performance" 2332cc model. Looks like someone is trying for a quick profit.

Pics of car appear to be on VMC Facebook/Photos page dated 08/20/2020, and post of 08/27/20

Yup, see the pix on VMCs Instagram feed also.  Color described by Greg as “2020 BMW Blue”.  Doors don’t have the topper in the Aug 2020 photos.  What else did someone do to this car I wonder.

One of Greg’s old photos:

I'm 99% sure this is a Vintage Motorcars of California Inc. Speedster.  The engine lid latch and the door latch are what Greg is using, the steering wheel is the one that Greg is using, the door toppers look like Greg's, all of the interior looks like Greg's cars.  I stopped in to see Greg last Friday and there were a couple of cars there that were the exact same color, it's a BMW color.  There was also one there with White walls, that I'm 90% sure was the same car.

It's definitely not a Vintage Speedster (Arizona) car.  Vintage in Arizona does buy their bodies from Greg, but they do their own interiors and everything else.  It's VERY easy to tell a Vintage Arizona car, because they put two extra snaps on the tonneau.  It's located a couple inches away from the twist locks on each side.  It's completely unnecessary and I don't know why they do it, but it's a dead give away.

UPDATE from what I posted above.  I just looked at the Vintage (Arizona) website and there are a lot of pictures without the extra snap, so maybe they finally realized it was completely unnecessary.

Yep, the car being sold on E-Bay is the same car Greg featured on Facebook and Instagram last August with a caption "This one is off to its new owner today."

Here is another photo from his Instagram feed showing the door topper, which looks normal here.  Maybe the camera angle used by the current seller shown in Robert's post above exaggerates the proportions and makes it look fatter.  (Hopefully that photographer doesn't do weddings.)

I'm curious to see how a "no reserve" auction works on eBay, since there is no eBay provision for declaring a "no reserve" auction when posting a car for sale.  Just saying it in the ad doesn't really make it so, since sellers can end an auction at any time for any reason.