Brake Cabling Question

Ummm...  I may be stupid (many have said so), but that picture looks like a Speedster under-dash handbrake.

@Lane Anderson posted:

Ummm...  I may be stupid (many have said so), but that picture looks like a Speedster under-dash handbrake.

Hey, Lane. Yes, it is a 356 diagram, as it’s all I have to illustrate what I’m looking for. 😉   I’m hoping someone has a photo of how they mounted the coupling I referred to, on the firewall of their Spyder.  

356 Speedster/Coupe umbrella handle  and Spyder hand crank lever -- two VERY different things, so far as I know.  Could an under the cowl umbrella be put in a spyder?  I 'spose . . .

@El Frazoo posted:

356 Speedster/Coupe umbrella handle  and Spyder hand crank lever -- two VERY different things, so far as I know.  Could an under the cowl umbrella be put in a spyder?  I 'spose . . .

Yes, sir, I understand. 😊 I’m interested in how the Spyder guys have mounted items 16, 6, and 7 from my attached diagram. I’m assuming those items are common to both 356 and Spyder E brake setups.  Thank you.  

My guess is that you're on your own and will need to modify it quite a bit. I think the biggest obstacle will be because your Spyder frame is very different from a 356 plus the engine and trans are turned around.  I can visualize the pull handle under the dash and it related parts probably working but after that, the down stream mechanism most likely will change.  In my Spyder, I rather like the nifty little ratchet set up next to the shifter. I probably won't use it much but it's nice to have on occasion ...........Bruce

@aircooled posted:

My guess is that you're on your own and will need to modify it quite a bit. I think the biggest obstacle will be because your Spyder frame is very different from a 356 plus the engine and trans are turned around.  I can visualize the pull handle under the dash and it related parts probably working but after that, the down stream mechanism most likely will change.  In my Spyder, I rather like the nifty little ratchet set up next to the shifter. I probably won't use it much but it's nice to have on occasion ...........Bruce

Thanks, Bruce.  

As I mentioned in my original post above, I just purchased a Spyder handbrake (just like your nifty little ratchet set) from Vintage Speed.  Like yours, it will be mounted on the floor right next to my shifter.  I have no intention of installing an under the dash umbrella hand brake.

The diagram I posted from a 356 was just to illustrate items #16, 6, and 7 in the diagram, as I’m assuming those parts will be similar to the Spyder (and I could find nowhere on the WWW a brake cabling diagram for a Spyder).  

If you have the floor mounted handbrake like mine on your Spyder, do you have a photo of the coupling mechanism on the engine side of the firewall illustrating how it’s configured and mounted?

Thanks!  

This isn’t my car, but I’ll be mounting my handbrake exactly like this.  You’ll notice that a single rod or cable runs from the bottom of the brake to the engine bay.  At that point, a coupler is used to attach the two emergency brake cables that run to each rear tire.  I’m hoping someone has a diagram or photo of where and how that junction is mounted in their Spyder.  Thanks again.  

John, is your plan to use OEM handbrake cables? Personally, I wouldn’t even worry about those umbrella handbrake parts. I would get a j hook, a wing nut, and a length of u channel. Drill a hole for the j bolt in the middle, and cut a slot and hole for the cable ends in the channel. Hook the j bolt into the parking brake, attach the cable ends and adjust with the wing nut.
I’d draw a picture but I suck at drawing.

I did my best. Don’t judge.  

Obviously not to scale, but hopefully conveys my idea.

Alternatively, ask Carey or Greg how they do it. I doubt they use any of the umbrella handle hardware.

Alternatively, you could use one of these doodads,* a length of threaded rod, and a pair of nuts (for adjustment) to attach to parts nos 16 and 6, which would automatically attach to the cable ends.

*technically “clevis pin rod ends.”