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I'm trying to replace the pads on my EMPI rear disc brakes (with e-brake).....  Caliper numbers are 22-2959 and 2960-B....

They seperated easily, but the pistons seem to be frozen.....   I know some calipers have a "threaded" piston that compensates for wear and must be "run in" to regain pad clearance.....   Can anyone shed some some light on what I have???

If it does use the "threaded" piston, where can I get the proper tool???  

 

I believe they are threaded because the piston face has two notches 180 deg. apart which appear to be wrench slots....

Without a machine shop, making a tool is almost impossible....

 

I also have no knowledge as to which direction of rotation loosens things up....

 

Thanks in advance.....

Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most.....  

 

Last edited by LeonChupp
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Thanks for the heads up Tab....  I was about to go ballistic with no help from EMPI.(discontinued part... I wonder why?)  I'll scope it out Monday and try again....

Always good to here from you Wolfgang, but the clamp??? Well sometimes they just don't work,,,,,,   Subaru uses the threaded pistons, as does EMPI apparently.....  Hope all is well in Fla... Just got back from 10 days on Anna Maria Island's Bradenton Beach last week....

Last edited by LeonChupp

Frank.....   The piston face that mates with the pad has two slots 180 deg apart....  the tool has a pair of "teeth" that mate with these slots an allow you to turn the piston in to its home position.....  As you are probably aware, a "regular" piston can be pressed or squeezed in to this home position...These pistons do not normally have slots or grooves...

Thing is there are many simple parts on drum brakes - springs, wheel cylinders,shoe retainers, and the dreaded manual star adjusters.  On disc brake calipers you don't touch any of those parts - you just exchange the entire old caliper for a rebuilt one and $50.  Disc brakes are also self adjusting.  You can rebuild drum brakes - by honing the wheel brake cylinder and replacing rubber bits for maybe $6 - springs and other parts usually can be reused. Arcing new shoes to fit drums can also be a pain.

Easier than that.  You:

  1. Remove wheel
  2. Tap the ends of the retaining pins and pull them out, which also releases the clip (not sure what it's called)
  3. Pull out pads
  4. Installation is pretty much the reverse although you may have to use something to push the pistons back in a bit since the new pads will be thicker.

This way you don't have to bleed anything.  If you want you can unbolt the caliper to make access somewhat easier.  As long as the hose is left attached you still don't have to bleed.

Last edited by Lane Anderson

Leon, the rear brake caliper is the same as on a LOT of VW/Audi products. The same caliper is on the rear of my Allroad. I've had that caliper on at least 5 cars. Front brakes are HUGE, but the rears are small solid rotor with the e-brake mechanism built in.

 

It is the same caliper on my Airkewld rear brakes as well.

 

I found you have to use a combo of turning and squeezing(gently) to get the pistons back in. I use a big C-clamp and a pair of water pump pliers. It take a while as the threads are very fine. It is a strange e-brake mechanism but it works well.

 

A month ago I did all 4 brakes on the big Audi(and rotors). It had close to 90K on the original brakes, believe it or not. Front rotors had hairline cracks, amd the rear were rusted on the edges. The pads were so low, one of the rear pistons popped out. That pissed me off a little, but I cleaned it all up and got it together and it works fine now. Brakes are now wonderful, again.

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