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The brake pads on my new Vintage Speedster sit loosely within the calipers so they rattle around. Most brake pads have “anti-rattle clips” or springs to hold them in place, but not these.

Does anyone know what make the calipers are and where I can get parts. Kirk ain’t answering his phone or emails, so no info there.

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Julio B. posted:

This is the kind of stuff that scares the living sh.... Out of me about investing in these cars. I would literally go out and $#%€..�������� someone....

or settle for suing them.. 

Yes, I agree. But it’s cheaper, less aggravating, and faster just to fix it myself. If you’ve ever bought a new boat of any size or had a house build for you it’s the same thing. I knew this when I bought my VS and accepted the risks. It was either this or a well sorted out new Miata. But no one gives you a thumbs-up when you pass them in a Mazada.  

"flopping around"?? sounds like wrong pads for the calipers.  Should be what we call a loose or slip-fit out in the shop.  Just goes in, don't have to force it. Ends up snug.  They should move easily in and out of the caliper frame in direction of the piston motion (obviously), but not wiggle side to side enough to notice.  Along w/ the glue or paste often applied between the back of the pad and the caliper piston to limit squeal, there are often spring clips that tend to keep the pads centered in the caliper frame -- maybe these were omitted??  Sometimes there is an extra thin plate between the piston and the pad backing plate. Your first thought is correct: find out who made them, then figure out if you have the right pads and all the right parts that are supposed to be there.  Chances are: EMPI.

VS commonly uses AC industries disc kits ( sold by SoCal Imports). They did on my 2013 build.  

  Not knowing what you have installed, attached you will find  AC Ind. front disc samples of what the caliper should look like...with anti rattle clips installed, hope this helps you in your diagnostic process ..and facilitates identifying potentially missing parts?

For 4 lug disc kits,AC Ind. uses Ghia pads and disc kit parts..  Your caliper should look like this... Note the retaining clips installed on each side, holding down/adding pressure to the pads.

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The pads/anti rattle clips/pins/ look like this...  The rectangular plate fits between the caliper and the pad, and the anti-rattle clip ( the wire looking things) places pressure on the pad to keep it from rattling.  

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Wide 5 setups use1980 VW rabbit pads..  The anti-rattle clips are the copper wire looking things.

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Clips pictured on far right.  Two should be installed per caliper... At each end of the brake pads.

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Note my left pad posed in the backwards position for this picture.. The metal  bit of the pad should be against the caliper wall.

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The clips pictured bellow are more modern, OEM replacements... Which now also come with the AC Ind kits...

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You should be able to sneak a peek with a flashlight and a mirror. No need to remove the tires.  If the clips are missing it will be immediately obvious.

Hope this helps...  Good luck.. 

Call VS. they will take care of you. May I suggest you take picture of your set up before calling him....see if anything is visibly missing. ( like the anti- rattle clips)... A picture of your caliper would help in the conversation .... Picture is worth 1000 words.

Also, if the calipers have the AC Industries markings, you could call the SoCal guys... They are easy to work with and have a technical help desk  to help answers Qs  and troubleshoot their AC Industries products.

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Last edited by Lfepardo
wombat posted:

Thanks to all you guys. This forum has consistently been a great source of useful, relevant, and (most importantly) accurate information.  There are relatively few rants and wanderings off onto tangent topics. My new VS came with a lot of minor bugs and solving these issues would be a lot harder without SOC. Thanks again.  

Definitely make sure you let us know what the problem turned out to be and what you did to resolve it. 

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