Hi all,
New owner and forum member here. My question is on brake pads and rotors. I just bought a JPS 58, it was built in 2014 and has front and rear disc. They’re pretty squeaky so I’m curious on the size/models I’ll need for replacements. Thanks in advance. I love this car!!
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Welcome Sonoma, usually the builder should have provided you a build list for your car or call JPS if your in Cali, and ask them for it.
Other than that someone else more familiar with that builder will have to chime in.
I'd look at the calipers and see who made them - cast in should be ATE/TRW/VARGA? I suspect they are common VW '72 up Karmann Ghia 2 (dual) pin pads and rotors in the front.
Awesome, great advise guys. Thanks!
Are you pads worn or just squeaky?
if just squeaky, you can buy an " anti squeal" product at any auto parts store that gets applied to the back side ( metal side) of the pads . Less than a couple $$s for the single use small packets. It’s an adheasive that will reduce/ eliminate the vibration that causes the noise.
Seriously , I have seen this applied on the pad side of the pads!
always best to start by getting eyes on your calipers and pads before you buy any parts...
while in there taking a look...if the pads are glazed and still have life in them, you can take 600 grit paper and remove the glaze... won’t take much, lay the paper on a flat surface and rub the pads on the paper
Some info I found useful when I had to research what I had;
is your wheel pattern the 4 or 5 bolt?
- 5 bolts commonly have the SoCal calipers... which use early VW rabbit pads is front, Ghia two pin in rear ( depending one brake v nor brake),
- the 4 bolt commonly have the Ghia two pin pads referenced above front and rear,
Useful resource link with pictures so you can use to compare what the pads look like-
+1972 Ghia
https://socalautoparts.com/pro...tyle-calipers-front/
ealy VW rabbit- ~1979-1983
https://socalautoparts.com/pro...tyle-calipers-front/
... you can take your old pad into a NAPA/ OReleys, Autozone... with the above VW references and they will pull up the correct replacement part number. Always best to compare side by side.
It’s also good to ask for the any-rattle clips... they come with many of the off the shelve VW pads. You may find the ones in your calipers just fell off if not properly installed by the previous owner.
hope this helps. Good luck.
cheers
Luis, right? Spot-on advice right there. Sonoma: follow it to the letter and you'll be good to go.
Wow, thank you so much! I’ll check em out tonight. I’ve got the 5 lug. This is great info!! So stoked you guys are out there and willing to share your wisdom!👍👍
Sorry for the typos. I was typing while walking the dog.
@Sonoma58 this forum has a great group of guys ready to pass on their wealth of knowledge. I joined in 2013 and I have learned almost everything I know about maintaining these cars form this group of guys. They all rock and I will be forever in their debt.
welcome to the madness!!!
cheers,
Luis
Sonoma58 posted:Wow, thank you so much! I’ll check em out tonight. I’ve got the 5 lug. This is great info!! So stoked you guys are out there and willing to share your wisdom!👍👍
The advice is free for the taking. Some take it and some don’t. Glad you found the answer.
SONOMA58: I have a JPS built in 2014 like your car, with four wheel disc brakes and wide 5 wheels. These cars are almost always one offs with all sorts of quirky stuff going on so what I'm passing along may not apply, partially apply or apply.
My car was built with hard brake lines to the rear calipers. In my car the brake lines had to be disconnected from the calipers to remove the pads. Once the brake lines were disconnected the brakes had to be bled. I replaced the hard brake lines with flexible stainless brake lines. I found the flexible lines allow for the pads to be removed from the calipers without disconnecting the brake line. Swapping to the stainless lines did require bleeding the brakes. After the swap I've been able to remove the rear pads without having to disconnect the caliper, and no need to bleed the brakes. If your car has hard rear brake lines this may help.
If your calipers have those funky anti-rattle clips be sure you safety wire them on so you don't lose them. If you do, not to worry they can be had from Rockauto or Summit.
Like others have posted, try the anti-squeal stuff, I've used it and it works.
Welcome-Since you bought the car, I'm pretty sure you're hooked.
Thank you sooo much for your insight Ewatub!! You guys are amazing.🙌🙌
Something that hasn't been mentioned- when you have the pads off, sand the leading edge at a 45° angle. Kevin from Coolrydes Customs claims this helps immensely.
