Anyways...balljoints and tie rods are on. Waiting for the wide 5 disc ,drop spindle kit for the front.
Looks like the same folks make them all regardless who you buy from. I bought mine from Gene Berg. They were the only vendor who knew how much angle a shim added; I believe it was 2 degrees 36 minutes. When installed I wound up with 6 degrees and change. Gene's shims are about 1/4" thick in the middle.
I don't have drop axles. To get the handling where you can drive you'll have to install a front sway bar and a camber commentator on the rear.
That's all I know about the subject...
Did you press them in or someone else? I ask because there are notches that have to be lined up for the ball joints to move freely. Failure to do this will create a very stiff suspension, as the ball joints won't have proper movement. The first pic shows the notches properly aligned when installed.
The 2nd pic shows an improperly installed ball joint, and how it has self- destructed.
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I would buy 2 pairs of shims and a pair of the longer bolts. The EMPI 22-2815 shims are like $12 a set. Install one set now and have the other on hand if alignment person needs them. An alignment place will NOT (most likely not) have a set in stock. They are about 1/4 thick in center.
Jim Gilbert - Madison, Mississippi posted:Looks like the same folks make them all regardless who you buy from. I bought mine from Gene Berg. They were the only vendor who knew how much angle a shim added; I believe it was 2 degrees 36 minutes. When installed I wound up with 6 degrees and change. Gene's shims are about 1/4" thick in the middle.
I don't have drop axles. To get the handling where you can drive you'll have to install a front sway bar and a camber commentator compensator (fixed it for you) if it's a swingaxle or anti- sway bar (irs) on the rear.
That's all I know about the subject...
You'll find that a lot in the VW aftermarketplace- most people will tell you "just use this; it works!" while Gene Berg put the effort in to understand why, and probably (a lot of the time) did the original r&d and originated the part or brought it to the VW world in the first place while everyone else is opportunistically making a buck off something they put no initial investment into. Al
PS- For any one doing the initial alignment on their car- read again what Greg (@WOLFGANG) said just above. The alignment guy, unless he's an old VW guy, won't even know what caster shims look like, let alone have a set on the shelf. Be prepared, and if you don't use them they'll sell here easily. Or, for the less than the $15 or so they cost, keep them in the garage on the work bench as a conversation starter ('cause I'd put money on no one else knowing what they're for!).
Ok, NOW I'm leaving...
Alb , i did the ball joints they are right.
I am going to get 4 shims 2 of the 1/4 and 2 thin ones and see what happens.
Yes Gene Berg orginated most everything perfromance wise we see nowadays for VW's.
What's a camber commentator? Oh, maybe it's a guy who responds to stuff. I hate spell check...
Jim Gilbert - Madison, Mississippi posted:What's a camber commentator? Oh, maybe it's a guy who responds to stuff. I hate spell check...
drives you crazy at times for sure... inserts words changes your thoughts...
Nice going on the build...
Jim Gilbert - Madison, Mississippi posted:What's a camber commentator? Oh, maybe it's a guy who responds to stuff. I hate spell check...
I didn't really think of how it ended up like it did, but that makes it really funny
Must be someone who comments about camber....although we have not talked about camber. And before someone brings it up yes i have the front camber adjusters. 😎
Brock...This is all Michael is trying to say. Those shims fit the radius of the axle tube and radius of where the tube fits the frame up there. If it only needs a little more adjustment, I guess a flat piece of shim stock will do but it won't be as perfect and matching of a fit.................Bruce
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You missed the arm . Nice job
IaM-Ray posted:Jim Gilbert - Madison, Mississippi posted:What's a camber commentator? Oh, maybe it's a guy who responds to stuff. I hate spell check...
drives you crazy at times for sure... inserts words changes your thoughts...
True, but for me, that is usually an improvement.
It appears to me that Brock is building one of these cars faster than the guys who build replicas for a living.
Ray, thanks ...waiting for the spring and bushing kit and the new output seals.
Todd, lol its this or mow grass lol......
Actually i mowed this morning for an hour to.
Brock B posted:Ray, thanks ...waiting for the spring and bushing kit and the new output seals.
Todd, lol its this or mow grass lol......
Actually i mowed this morning for an hour to.
You could cut that time down quite a bit with this:
Brock B posted:Ray, thanks ...waiting for the spring and bushing kit and the new output seals.
Todd, lol its this or mow grass lol......
Actually i mowed this morning for an hour to.
Are you retired? My tentative retirement date is 7:30 am, March 1, 2021. But then, who is keeping track?
My job has this irritating aspect in that it interferes with my life.
Robert, yeah saw that before...my zero turn Husqi is fast enough.
Todd, retarded? Yep pretty sure lol.
I havent worked for anyone but me in years, pay is a little in frequent but thats ok.
Brock B posted:Robert, yeah saw that before...my zero turn Husqi is fast enough.
Todd, retarded? Yep pretty sure lol.
I havent worked for anyone but me in years, pay is a little in frequent but thats ok.
I'm fairly certain you met RETIRED. Dang spellchecker.
Robert, nope i ment it....have to be something wrong to want to build cars all the time! 😂😂
Brock B posted:Robert, nope i ment it....have to be something wrong to want to build cars all the time! 😂😂
Ha! Nothing wrong with building a few cars now and then ~
Todd...If you're busy now, wait and see what happens when your are retired....Bruce
aircooled posted:Todd...If you're busy now, wait and see what happens when your are retired....Bruce
Probably due to proscratination at least for me in part.
aircooled posted:Todd...If you're busy now, wait and see what happens when your are retired....Bruce
I have no idea how I had time to go to work !
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Your 40 hours, are they up yet ? Looking good.
You can get the M/C reservoir that pops right into the Master cylinder so you don't have the hoses and isolated reservoir. https://www.ebay.com/itm/EMPI-...d&frcectupt=true
Alan ,you can but i got the remote that will mount in the frunk with hoses down to the master.
Brock B posted:Alan ,you can but i got the remote that will mount in the frunk with hoses down to the master.
That's is what most use but the pop in type cleans up the frunk , just presenting an option :~)
"Building the pedals," eh. I like the cut of your jib.
Alan, the frunk is not oem lookinh anyway so no need to clean it up show level.
Edsnova, yeah the pedals i want are $1500.....yeah i can build em.
Please post pic's of your fabrication of the pedals ! Not a difficult job butI'm curious as to how you will take it from your mental concept to the finished product. Very admirable ! Don't forget to use CAD ! ..............Bruce
Bruce, i will post pics of them but im sure it wont be as easy as you or i think. CAD 😂yeah i dont have that........
I have made a set. It's not so hard. You can almost make them out of std. hardware and stock steel off the shelf. CAD for some of us, me included, means Cardboard Aided Design. You know, make your templates out of cardboard, trace that on the material and cut n weld........Bruce
Bruce hahaha i go it! Oh carboard cad , i use it all the time!
Pedals: Chapter 1 (starts about a third of the way down).
Chapter 2: Gas Pedal.
Chapter 3: adjusting the firewall.
Chapter 4: re-bushing & installation.
There'll probably be a Chapter 5: redoing stuff cuz I screwed it up somehow...
So far: 60(ish) hours. Russ's Fibersteel set look like a good deal at $1500—at least to me, a first-time fabricator who just decided to wing it. I'm thinking Brock will do 'em better than I did.