Carrera Coachwerks Tube vs. Pan

Some builders retain the VW tunnel and floor pans and surround it with a box frame. They hold on to the pan ID # from the VW donor.

I know of another builder who simply removes the ID plate from a VW pan and installs it on to a completely new frame.

Either way, it is questionable whether it's legal to register the car as a VW in California. Your state may be different.

If I recall correctly, the original Thunder Ranch (now CC) tube frame design used the rear portion of the VW tunnel, which includes the VIN.  I think that's how they claimed it could be easily registered.  I don't know if CC has changed that design.

Buy one and let us know... 

I recommend their Coupe.  It's neato 

 Couldn't have said it better myself, there are times when you need to rip the band-aid off quickly. Or as my dad told me sh** or get off the pot.  

As long as you buy the car as a kit for a private build in the state of CA you can register it as a special construction vehicle. If you are buying a turnkey from a licensed car manufacturer you will have troubles.

I am not aware of any licensed car manufacturers that build replicas.  This includeds VS, Intermeccanica, JPS, Beck Special Editions, SAS, and CC.  For a manufacturer to be licensed as such with the feds, they would need to pass mileage regulations, crash stability tests, and other regs that are far beyond the pocketbook of a small maker.

When you register a car with SB100 or SPCN in California, you sign a statement that you did work on the vehicle, allowing you to quailfy for special construction registration.

I just went through the process. If you call Intermeccanica and ask them they will tell you they are a car manufacturer. If you ask Beck they will tell you that they sell "kits" first and formost. CA specifically says that a car manufacturer won't qualify under SPCN registration.

When I talked to Henry at IM he said that you would not be able to register a new IM turnkey in CA. It would have to be sent to you in pieces for assembly here in CA. You would also have to have separate receipts for all of the major components.

I suppose that you can get around the law with a little creative thinking and fabrication. For me that is a rather scary proposition when there is a lot of $$$ at stake. IMO it's best to throroughly understand the law and that way you have a reasonable expectation of the outcome.

GAZI IS NEVER GOING TO BUY A CAR. HE IS SIMPLY WRITING A BOOK ON KIT CARS.

FOCKEN GAZI TOO FUNNY

U SHOULD BE ON THE BEST COAST WITH THE REST OF US, YOU WOULD FIT IN

Aw, cummon' guys- it's Christmas. Cut Gazi some slack. He's trying to get his ducks in a row.

My advice? buy Dave Mitchell's IM/6. It'll only hurt until the check clears. The rest would be pure bliss from then on.

GAZI VINCE HATES YOUR PIC THINKS U LOOK LIKE A FRIGGING ARAB, I TOLD HIM THATS CAUSE U R A FOCKEN ARAB

Tough crowd.   

Gazi,

You want it to ride like a VW get the standard set up... If you want it to feel like a new sports car order it with our suspension. I've had my speedster up to 125 mph and it felt like a new porsche (the real kind)....

It amazes me the topics that get discussed publicly herein, a can or worms in the making .......

AWESOME 

I laughed out loud. (How can an A-rab be a Republican? Total infiltrator!)

Gazi,  Those in CA do not need to punish ourselves further.  The socialists have been voted in  on this coast. 

Hey !!! Alan !!! Get that can and lets go fishing... 

Ok Gazi, there's only one way to put this to rest.  You have to come to Carlisle this year.  Yeah, that's the ticket.

.....were much anticipated additional verbal abuse will abound :~)

...and discover you're probably the best looking guy in this gaggle of knuckleheads!.....Well, certainly the most intelligent looking...

You're right Jimbo... too good looking for this crowd... I bet you Gazi still has ALL his teeth too! well there goes the Carlisle group!

Just saying...

Speedster "D"

Jim wrote:  ....and discover you're probably the best looking guy

I don't quite understand the " why " of you saying the above quote but then again, anything is politically correct..I'm just not going to bend over and tie my shoes in front of you...

......and to think Connie and I were seriously considering coming to California to hang with you Knuckleheads in June ! :~)

Allen---I hope you do!

Alan, if you guys make it to the West Coast Cruise, Vince & Gerd will demonstrate the proper way to do the 'One-Legged Alcatraz'!