I picked up a sump plate with drain plug from Mainly Custom By Design for this sump.
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I picked up a sump plate with drain plug from Mainly Custom By Design for this sump.
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I've been meaning to get one of those. Let us know how it works out.
I'm running one of those, too.
Love it.
gn
Love it.
gn
my 2387 came with a plate like that, not that one in particular but the same idea. 17mm i believe and no more screwing with those little bastard nuts and threaded rods. i run a wix 51515r filter.
Ok, I'm convinced.
Bob,
What part# was it?
What part# was it?
Terry,
The information I was given was to call them at 207-698-7646 and ask for the sump plate with drain plug for the CB Thin Line Oil Sump for a VW. It isn't on their web site menu. I spoke with Bob and he knew exactly what I was talking about... OR you could email them at
sales@mainelycustombydesign.com and ask about the plate. It just makes sense,to me, to be able to change the oil with one bolt rather than mess with the 8 hex nuts and remove the whole plate.
The information I was given was to call them at 207-698-7646 and ask for the sump plate with drain plug for the CB Thin Line Oil Sump for a VW. It isn't on their web site menu. I spoke with Bob and he knew exactly what I was talking about... OR you could email them at
sales@mainelycustombydesign.com and ask about the plate. It just makes sense,to me, to be able to change the oil with one bolt rather than mess with the 8 hex nuts and remove the whole plate.
Thanks for the heads up Bob, I am ordering one asap! Mainley makes good stuff.
Mainly did not have the gaskets for the sump cover. However, I have extras here if anyone needs one..
the problem arises that only CB has the gasket to fit their sump. they have a $25 minimum order for parts plus shipping, etc.
the gasket are $2 each so do the math. i have 2 extra gaskets but promised them to tpknuckles in exchange for a microbeer and am i thirsty.
the gasket are $2 each so do the math. i have 2 extra gaskets but promised them to tpknuckles in exchange for a microbeer and am i thirsty.
Bob,
Thanks for the info. I'll give them a call.
Barncobob,
I'm laid up for the next couple weeks. Let's plan on getting together after that. Auburn Brewery?
Thanks for the info. I'll give them a call.
Barncobob,
I'm laid up for the next couple weeks. Let's plan on getting together after that. Auburn Brewery?
Call Mainley direct, give the specs on your sump cover (or attach the photo to an e-mail w/ appl. info) and try to buy gaskets direct.
http://www.mainelycustombydesign.com/engine_components.html#oilsump
(tell em your an SOC member and you'll give 'em some referrals and good words-that'll probably help)
Oops sorry-I guess a direct attempt has already been tried!
If its items 1 & 3 in this link, should be readily available:
http://www.vw-resource.com/oil_leakage.html#plate
http://www.mainelycustombydesign.com/engine_components.html#oilsump
(tell em your an SOC member and you'll give 'em some referrals and good words-that'll probably help)
Oops sorry-I guess a direct attempt has already been tried!
If its items 1 & 3 in this link, should be readily available:
http://www.vw-resource.com/oil_leakage.html#plate
why not take the cb one and drill and tap it.
William,
You can drill and tap the CB sump plate and it's been done successfully however, some have tried and failed thus causing them to buy a new sump plate. A portion of the CB plate needs to be milled perfectly flat to remove part of the cooling fins and provide room for the drain plug and mating surface. Once that's done, then you drill and tap a hole in relatively thin material that doesn't provide much material for the pipe threads. Where "SOME" have failed (not everyone) is that the aluminum plate is thin and it has cracked.
Another problem is that once it's drilled and tapped, it may not seal properly unless you can find the right kind of drain plug with a sealing washer.
For those of you that have been successful in drilling and tapping, I'm not saying that EVERYONE will have problems or that EVERY CB sump cover will fail, just that "IF" it does crack or won't seal then you're stuck buying a new plate
Last week, Bob Kelly and I spoke extensively on this subject. I've installed several of the Mainly by Design sump plates and they are made well and seal properly. My suggestion was to shell out the money and buy the manufactured plate and be done with it. Sometimes the work involved to modify something isn't worth the expense of the completed product that you are able to purchase.
Some people that have been successful will fault what I'm proposing but after many years of 'tinkering' with these cars, VW engines, and related options, I've found that """sometimes,""" it's just easier to buy the product rather than modify it.
You can drill and tap the CB sump plate and it's been done successfully however, some have tried and failed thus causing them to buy a new sump plate. A portion of the CB plate needs to be milled perfectly flat to remove part of the cooling fins and provide room for the drain plug and mating surface. Once that's done, then you drill and tap a hole in relatively thin material that doesn't provide much material for the pipe threads. Where "SOME" have failed (not everyone) is that the aluminum plate is thin and it has cracked.
Another problem is that once it's drilled and tapped, it may not seal properly unless you can find the right kind of drain plug with a sealing washer.
For those of you that have been successful in drilling and tapping, I'm not saying that EVERYONE will have problems or that EVERY CB sump cover will fail, just that "IF" it does crack or won't seal then you're stuck buying a new plate
Last week, Bob Kelly and I spoke extensively on this subject. I've installed several of the Mainly by Design sump plates and they are made well and seal properly. My suggestion was to shell out the money and buy the manufactured plate and be done with it. Sometimes the work involved to modify something isn't worth the expense of the completed product that you are able to purchase.
Some people that have been successful will fault what I'm proposing but after many years of 'tinkering' with these cars, VW engines, and related options, I've found that """sometimes,""" it's just easier to buy the product rather than modify it.
I'm with you Larry.... Thought about drilling mine but now I'm calling Mainly!
Just for reference the plate was $77.30 delivered.. They shipped it 2 hours after my call... AND thanks larry for the heads up on this product.
The Mainely stuff is NICE. I want one of their wide-5 balance adapters.
However, my CB thinline sump is the filter kind. So I have to remove the cover to clean it anyway. Even if you have no filter, not a bad idea to clean the sump plate when you change the oil. Mine is installed with bolts, remove two or three and let it drain for a while. When most of the oil is gone I totally remove the plate, clean everything, and let it drip overnight.
I thought about milling, drilling, and tapping my cover. If I do it, I will take it to a welder and add some extra material where I drill and tap, if that's feasible. It's not that bad to change the oil the way it is, so I'll probably leave it alone.
However, my CB thinline sump is the filter kind. So I have to remove the cover to clean it anyway. Even if you have no filter, not a bad idea to clean the sump plate when you change the oil. Mine is installed with bolts, remove two or three and let it drain for a while. When most of the oil is gone I totally remove the plate, clean everything, and let it drip overnight.
I thought about milling, drilling, and tapping my cover. If I do it, I will take it to a welder and add some extra material where I drill and tap, if that's feasible. It's not that bad to change the oil the way it is, so I'll probably leave it alone.
Just got off of the phone with Bob at Mainely. He laughed when I told him what I wanted as he had apparently just taken another SOCer's order. He said that he's getting more and more business from the replica folks, and I told him it was due to his reputation. He was a pleasure to deal with and I highly recommend their stuff. It's always nice to find folks like that.
You can post a thumbs-up here:
https://www.speedsterowners.com/shops/shop.asp?venid=1071
(post your engine config. plus the part numbers ordered)
https://www.speedsterowners.com/shops/shop.asp?venid=1071
(post your engine config. plus the part numbers ordered)
Done.
Double Done
Lane, that was probably me ordering a sump plate. He said he made a run of them and has a few left. Glad I got one. Real nice guy, and the oil temp thermometer that goes in the dipstick hole is nice too.
Have you guys seen this?
http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=1287
http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=1287
Gordon,
That won't fit on the CB sump.. It would be nice if they made a sump plate with drain that would fit their CB sump !
That won't fit on the CB sump.. It would be nice if they made a sump plate with drain that would fit their CB sump !
Yup. That has 6 bolts and is smaller. The thin-line sump requires 8 blots and is larger in diameter.
Will,
I bought one of the dipstick thermometers from Mainely.
It is a loose fit on the dipstick tube.
I am thinking about putting some heat shrink tubing on the tube to increase the diameter.
The guy at Mainely didn't have much to say about the situation when I talked to him about it.
I bought one of the dipstick thermometers from Mainely.
It is a loose fit on the dipstick tube.
I am thinking about putting some heat shrink tubing on the tube to increase the diameter.
The guy at Mainely didn't have much to say about the situation when I talked to him about it.
Michael, the one I have has a bushing that makes a snug fit when pushed in al the way. I will look at it and take a pic. Maybe yours got shipped with out the bushing?
Bob Kelley, I tried to email you with the address in your profile, but it was returned.. I needto ask a favor of you. Could you give me a call 760 637 5036? Thanks, Will
This is what my dipstick thermometer looks like with the bushing etc
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Can you run the dipstick at all times?, I was just using it to check temps on long trips. My stick has a rubber stop near the top but no bushing.
Yes, you can run the thermo-dipstick at all times. I used to, but now that I have my dash gauge more-or-less calibrated (lines drawn on the face) I just run a stock stick.
Bob: Slick set up... I'll have to retro-fit something like that on mine...right after a bunch of other projects. It's SUMMER, after all!
gn
Bob: Slick set up... I'll have to retro-fit something like that on mine...right after a bunch of other projects. It's SUMMER, after all!
gn
That's what Bob at Mainely described. Mine just has the black plastic piece and fits very loosely. He told me to return it for an exchange, which I will do when I get the stuff I just ordered.
Mine just has the flexible plastic piece on the left.
Will and Lane,
I also talked to Bob around 10 am and ordered the cover. Bob said he had about 3 left and maybe he would make up some more depending on his orders. He seemed like a nice guy. Told him we say nice things about his products on the SOC.
Dave
Lane, I think I can return the photo favor (CB gasket?)
I also talked to Bob around 10 am and ordered the cover. Bob said he had about 3 left and maybe he would make up some more depending on his orders. He seemed like a nice guy. Told him we say nice things about his products on the SOC.
Dave
Lane, I think I can return the photo favor (CB gasket?)
What is a good do it yourself fix for the dipstick without the gray bushing?
Thanks, Dave!
Lane,
Do you need one?
Let me know and I will send it on as soon as I get it. CB is a little slow, no shipping notice for me yet and I ordered it last week. So I can most likely get it to you early next week.
Marty, When I bought my thermo dipstick I remember seeing threads on using shrink wrap to thicken the end. There was also mention of the different diameter of the dickstick tubes in type 1 engines. Mine fit fine but if yours is a little loose try shrink wrap.
Dave
Do you need one?
Let me know and I will send it on as soon as I get it. CB is a little slow, no shipping notice for me yet and I ordered it last week. So I can most likely get it to you early next week.
Marty, When I bought my thermo dipstick I remember seeing threads on using shrink wrap to thicken the end. There was also mention of the different diameter of the dickstick tubes in type 1 engines. Mine fit fine but if yours is a little loose try shrink wrap.
Dave
I think I used my last gasket on the last oil change. I will just order some more when I order the oil (Brad Penn) from CB, so you needn't bother. That way you still owe me that beer ;-).
If your intention is to install the new sump plate and leave it there until the engine is rebuilt then you don't need a gasket. I've been installing them, stock and other brands of sump plates for years without a gasket. I thoroughly clean the mating surfaces with Brake Clean then apply a bead of 3 Bond or Orange Higt Temp Silicone, tighten it up and forget about it.