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I inquired about this car (due to it's large ridiculous price) & the seller cursed me out (via email). What a schmuck, these guys are trying to rip people off & get totally offended when someone calls them on it!
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I inquired about this car (due to it's large ridiculous price) & the seller cursed me out (via email). What a schmuck, these guys are trying to rip people off & get totally offended when someone calls them on it!
Here's the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-Speedster-1957-PORSCHE-SPEEDSTER-REPLICA-BRAND-NEW-23-MILES_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6058QQitemZ4613769900QQrdZ1
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You should've posted all that info. for everyone to see in the "question to seller" section. What a rip off! If they only knew they can get one custom made for what the bid is going at now....
No doubt! Plus these losers cursed me out after a simple Q & A. I brought it to their attention that they should not curse out perspective clients/buyers/people who know about these cars, but they don't listen at all.
WOW You aren't kiddin. A bit on the false advertisment regarding manufacturer . Hey my Speedster is up for sale $40K . Any takers?
there's an ass for every seat
After watching Barrett Jackson auctions for awhile a replica Speedster for $31k+ seems like a bargin to me.....while we are all aware that this is no bargain, all it takes is one guy who really doesn't care it is a "bit" overpriced....
For reference try to buy a new Pontiac Solstice right now and see how many thousands over list price it takes.....I was recently quoted $10k over the full and inflated list plus over $5k in dealer add ons and a dollar a mile to bring it in from upstate NY..... think over $40k.....
For reference try to buy a new Pontiac Solstice right now and see how many thousands over list price it takes.....I was recently quoted $10k over the full and inflated list plus over $5k in dealer add ons and a dollar a mile to bring it in from upstate NY..... think over $40k.....
Even though the word Porsche is used liberally in the listing, it is clear that the car is a new replica. Even the listing says Replica.
I have mixed feelings about this, even more-so in the last couple of years.
There is a little thing called a search engine (ex. google). Type in "356 speedster" or any variation there-of and you will get to this site, or at least one of the manufacturers. In as little as 5 minutes, someone completely new to the industry can learn the real value. If someone is unwilling to do even the smallest amount of research, then perhaps paying a premium for convenience isn't the worst thing in the world.
My brother-in-law once bought a new Honda Accord, and brought it over to my house just after the purchase. Written on the window sticker was a line item with almost 2 thousand dollars labeled "Dealer Margin". I said "You didn't actually pay that?" His response was, "They told me I had to, and I wanted this color combo."
-=theron
I have mixed feelings about this, even more-so in the last couple of years.
There is a little thing called a search engine (ex. google). Type in "356 speedster" or any variation there-of and you will get to this site, or at least one of the manufacturers. In as little as 5 minutes, someone completely new to the industry can learn the real value. If someone is unwilling to do even the smallest amount of research, then perhaps paying a premium for convenience isn't the worst thing in the world.
My brother-in-law once bought a new Honda Accord, and brought it over to my house just after the purchase. Written on the window sticker was a line item with almost 2 thousand dollars labeled "Dealer Margin". I said "You didn't actually pay that?" His response was, "They told me I had to, and I wanted this color combo."
-=theron
Since you don't know what the "buy it now" price is, and the fact that its at 20,100.00 and not met its reserve yet, low 20's is not a stretch for a new Replica, I don't see why you guys are getting off on this......
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If it was me, the temp gauge would be for the temperature of my forehead after I paid that much.
But, five years ago that was me. I didn't know a darned thing about these things and paid $16K for my hoopty. Thanks to y'all, I'm a little smarter now and I wouldn't give myself a dollar!
I say that now. It's 30-something degrees out.
Come on spring! I'll forget everything the first time I nose out of the driveway ...
But, five years ago that was me. I didn't know a darned thing about these things and paid $16K for my hoopty. Thanks to y'all, I'm a little smarter now and I wouldn't give myself a dollar!
I say that now. It's 30-something degrees out.
Come on spring! I'll forget everything the first time I nose out of the driveway ...
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I don't really see what the problem is. The guy is clearly advertising this as a replica - I don't think anybody would confuse it for a "real" speedster. Plenty of people on this site and elsewhere have spent $32K+ - it wouldn't be out of line for an IM. Maybe this car is of similar or - perish the thought - better quality?
If somebody wants to pay $32K for it, so be it. The seller isn't doing anything dishonest here. As for how he responded to you, I don't think we can comment without knowing what you asked. If I were advertising a car for $30K and I got an email from an "expert" telling me it was worth $10K, I might throw a terse response back as well.
If somebody wants to pay $32K for it, so be it. The seller isn't doing anything dishonest here. As for how he responded to you, I don't think we can comment without knowing what you asked. If I were advertising a car for $30K and I got an email from an "expert" telling me it was worth $10K, I might throw a terse response back as well.
Says its "Brand New" but under "Condition: Used." I like the coolant temperature gauge --- is that air, oil or cylinder head temp? Assume oil temp since it looks like 356 replica gauge. Gulp BUY IT NOW only $31,995!
Ted, if the car was an IM it would be a right good price. But it isn't. I think Ricardo hit the nail on the head. The current bid is nearly on target. If somebody wants to pay almost 32K for this car, then I want to be in touch with them about some property I have for sale in the national park.
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"Ted, if the car was an IM it would be a right good price"
We don't really know what the car is though, right? It isn't clear (to me, anyway) who the manufacturer was. It appears to be a Vintage, but who knows? I realize it's blasphamous to say in these parts, but maybe it's an even higher quality car than an IM.
Let the buyer and seller decide these things for themselves. It's not like the car is obviously in very poor condition and on its last legs. It's worth exactly what somebody is willing to pay for it.
We don't really know what the car is though, right? It isn't clear (to me, anyway) who the manufacturer was. It appears to be a Vintage, but who knows? I realize it's blasphamous to say in these parts, but maybe it's an even higher quality car than an IM.
Let the buyer and seller decide these things for themselves. It's not like the car is obviously in very poor condition and on its last legs. It's worth exactly what somebody is willing to pay for it.
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Ted, it is not blasphamous to say "even higher quality car than an IM", not a bit. If it is "even higher quality car than an IM" and only has 23 miles on it, then it is probably a good deal at 32K.
It does appear to be perhaps a Vintage but the add hints the car is from a german company, "Custom Coachwork done by Stuttgarter Karosseriewerk Reutter & Co GMBH, Stuttgart, Germany". Perhaps there is a new player in the market.
It is plated as a CA car although it does not have a '57 sticker on the plate, I think that it is not registered in CA.
I believe it to be a Vintage and the seller is trying to capitalize on the recent sales at Barret-Jackson.
It does appear to be perhaps a Vintage but the add hints the car is from a german company, "Custom Coachwork done by Stuttgarter Karosseriewerk Reutter & Co GMBH, Stuttgart, Germany". Perhaps there is a new player in the market.
It is plated as a CA car although it does not have a '57 sticker on the plate, I think that it is not registered in CA.
I believe it to be a Vintage and the seller is trying to capitalize on the recent sales at Barret-Jackson.
"Custom Coachwork done by Stuttgarter Karosseriewerk Reutter & Co GMBH, Stuttgart, Germany". Perhaps there is a new player in the market.
LOL. New player? Yeah, leave it to the Germans to want to copy "our" replicas! They'll probably make them out of metal so they rust and then charge outrageous prices.
LOL. New player? Yeah, leave it to the Germans to want to copy "our" replicas! They'll probably make them out of metal so they rust and then charge outrageous prices.
oops...just noticed the Buy it now price in the ad....
look at the bright side....
Instead of riping this guy a new one, you should be thanking him for trying to raise the bar for the price of a medium level replica...
If they all did that our cars would be worth more as time went on..
look at the bright side....
Instead of riping this guy a new one, you should be thanking him for trying to raise the bar for the price of a medium level replica...
If they all did that our cars would be worth more as time went on..
Former Member
"Custom Coachwork done by Stuttgarter Karosseriewerk Reutter & Co GMBH, Stuttgart, Germany"
I was going to point that out, but I suspect this is a case of the seller not knowing what he's looking at. I think it's more likely that VS has put a Reutter badge on the car, and the seller believes it to be legit, than that Reutter has started building replicas. But again, who knows?
I was going to point that out, but I suspect this is a case of the seller not knowing what he's looking at. I think it's more likely that VS has put a Reutter badge on the car, and the seller believes it to be legit, than that Reutter has started building replicas. But again, who knows?
Former Member
"Custom Coachwork done by Stuttgarter Karosseriewerk Reutter & Co GMBH, Stuttgart, Germany"
That's just what it reads on the stock 356 Rutters Coachwork badge that came on the 356A. The seller is quoting the repro body badge . . . as Ted points out.
That's just what it reads on the stock 356 Rutters Coachwork badge that came on the 356A. The seller is quoting the repro body badge . . . as Ted points out.
I agree with Vince, rather than course this guy (which, as a Sicilian is a central part of my DNA) I would say, let
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You guys have a great point.....
Yeah, but these guys have an attitude you wouldn't believe.....