chomping at the bit

I am the proud new owner of a Bergmann 2332 sitting in the garage. Unfortunately, I won't be able to install it until the spring, so I have to let it taunt me for the next six months.

Just to wet my appetite, what would you all guess this thing will do in a quarter mile and 0-60 assuming it has around 160hp????

How many curves are there in your chosen quarter mile? Mine favorite has about five. I love those lateral forces! Oh . . did you mean drag racing as in drag racing . . . ? I heard they only go 1000 feet these days, either they are going green or something about top speed . . so be careful.

i will mostlikely never actually test it. it's just nice to know when that kid in the souped up civic is sitting next to you at the stoplight.

C'mon George.....There's nothing like a spirited blast throught "The Commons" in the wee hours.....

George, your answer(s) will differ widely depending upon a few minor things like transmission / R/P ratios, tires sizes and "stickiness", swing axle or IRS, super diff or LSD, actual weight of the car with you in it, carburation Bernie has selected to get to the 160hp, where the 160 hr occurs, what is the torque generated by the engine, and the like.

Off the cuff guesses, performance could be better but; 0-60? most likely sub 6 second if you have the tires / transmission/ diff for it. Quarter mile, most likely sub 14 second.

Regarding the rice burner in the next lane, some of them can and will bite you. We have quite a few around here in the 300+ hp range, with one or 2 approaching 425 hp....there are 8 generations of Civic to deal with, some are lighter weight and have engines that massage better than others, but you got a 2800 pound car with 300 hp against your speedster at maybe 1700 pounds with 160 hp, it may get more interesting than one might anticipate....

A car's true performance begins with the driver . . .

thanks for the input. it's pretty much what i was expecting. i spent the day detailing the new motor with a q-tip. this made it much more interesting for me.

"what would you all guess this thing will do in a quarter mile and 0-60 assuming it has around 160hp???? "

Low-mid thirteens for the quarter.

Now, What would my son's old "Rice Burner" Eclipse do in that same quarter?

11.0 or less (it was running 680 hp to the wheels on a chassis dyno, and it was completely street drive-able, like a lot of Civics out there.)

If you run a stock-ratio VW first gear, you might take him for the first, oh....., 10 feet, and then it's all over for ya.

was your engine dynoed? my 140hp bergman 2332 made 98.89 on a chassis dyno.

alright, alright, i'll take it down a notch. how about that guy next to me an a 1997 boxster...or a STOCK miata...maybe the dink in the 5 series bimmer with the automatic transmission and the four kids in the back...

2332 making 98.89 wheel HP.

wow. I had a 1.8L making more than that (It was a shade under 100). that was wheel hp too.

Sounds like your motor needs some serious tuning.

Oh I dunno. 140 "advertised" Hp delivering 100 Hp to the rear wheels would mean 40 Hp lost to friction, fan, alternator, lack of dyno tuning, and other accessories. I have always heard that a MINIMUM loss of 30 Hp is to be expected. Is that right?

I am not proud to admit that many years ago, my original "120 Hp" engine actually produced 74 Hp at the rear wheels. And it was still fun to drive back then.

You should expect 20-30% loss thru the drivetrain.

My Subaru powered car puts out 185kw (246hp) and 280nm of torque on the chassis dyno. My biggest scalp to date was a rather suprised driver of the new BMW M5. Yes the V10 jobby. I had him all the way through 1st and 2nd and then had to climb on the anchors for a bend in the road. I must add that the sound of that V10 of my right shoulder was something else! By the way he could not look at me, what a rush!

Greg - I would loved to have seen the look on the M5 driver's face when you blew his doors off!!

Too Much Fun!

I'd love to drive your car!! I've driven the neighbors m5-pulls like a train!! I didn't want to give the keys back.

Yeah! What Jim said!!

~WB