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Okay I know that most people have normal Christmas meals at their house - all filled with loving relatives, good cheer and fine food and drink. I've seen pictures. I know those things happen.

But they never happen for me... I though everything was planned out perfectly this year. We got up early to begin cooking. The hashbrowns were first. Steve fried them up in a skillet to a most delectable golden color. We put the oven at 175 degrees, slid the hasbrowns into a large pyrex cake pan and put them in the oven. The cake pan was at room temperature as we store it in the cupboard.

About 20 minute later it EXPLODED!!!! Absolutely shrapnelled! Sounded like a gunshot going off followed by a weird grinding noise as all the small bits fragmented about inside of the oven. Fortunatley, the oven door was fully closed when this happened.

I mean seriously, whose freakin' hashbrowns explode (actually it was the pan that exploded...)? Why does this stuff always happen to us? Does every vivid family memory have to be indelibly stamped with something catching on fire or blowing up?

GAHHH!

angela

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Okay I know that most people have normal Christmas meals at their house - all filled with loving relatives, good cheer and fine food and drink. I've seen pictures. I know those things happen.

But they never happen for me... I though everything was planned out perfectly this year. We got up early to begin cooking. The hashbrowns were first. Steve fried them up in a skillet to a most delectable golden color. We put the oven at 175 degrees, slid the hasbrowns into a large pyrex cake pan and put them in the oven. The cake pan was at room temperature as we store it in the cupboard.

About 20 minute later it EXPLODED!!!! Absolutely shrapnelled! Sounded like a gunshot going off followed by a weird grinding noise as all the small bits fragmented about inside of the oven. Fortunatley, the oven door was fully closed when this happened.

I mean seriously, whose freakin' hashbrowns explode (actually it was the pan that exploded...)? Why does this stuff always happen to us? Does every vivid family memory have to be indelibly stamped with something catching on fire or blowing up?

GAHHH!

angela

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Angela,
Thanks for the help on my 911 powered IM. The car is runnig fantastic. The idle problem is fixed and John repaired every electric problem in the car. The rear brakes rattle(Bremtec calipers) so Im working on a spring loaded clip to take care of it. The tranny still needs to be removed to repair 3rd gear which will be done when I finish all the cosmetic details. Henry has been more than helpful with paint codes etc. Again...thank you and great article in Kit Car magazine. Happy New Year and just order out for the holidays. Tom
Angela:

Don't feel too bad.....

Last Monday, Kathy, the Jacks and I were headed to Massachusetts for Christmas with the extended family, but we aborted the trip that night when we got to Baltimore. We talked with the kids and found that everyone up there has a cold or flu or the "Dredded Mahokis" or something and we want to stay healthy (I have some surgery planned in two weeks). So, the next morning we turned around and headed back to Beaufort.

After driving all day Tuesday, and when we were about two hours from home, (Honest to God, I am NOT making this up) a 30 lb. wild turkey flew over I95 Southbound and slammed into the windshield of my F250, shattering it so I could barely see out to get off the highway at the next exit. Had cars all around us when it happened and I'm still amazed that I held it all together, didn't swerve or hit anyone else and managed to get out of the left lane and get to the off ramp.

Some Holidays are just plain boring....

Not THIS one!

Gordon
Tom - you're car is up and running? Oh please, please, please post pictures for us! You just made my day!!!! Did you wind up dropping the engine to take off the intake?

Gordon - glad you're OK, a 30 lb feathered missile can easily go THRU the windshield.... Helluva way to pick yourself up a holiday turkey!

I have no idea why the violent pyrex explosion to place today. I've used that same pan for years (in fact, I have two of them) with zero problems. Now I am going to get rid of all the pyrex...

Spontaneous explosions involving glass are NOT where it's at...

angela

This was glass and not pyroceram (aka Corningware) right? Pyreoceram can build up incredible stresses after its final annealing just from use and especially differential heating. Since the material is so incredibly strong, this usually does not result in a problem. However, when scored or scratched and then dropped, it can literally explode when the stresses are released. This is a favorite demo by ME profs for visiting parents. Now, I'm no expert but I suspect the same can be said of Pyrex glass. It is annealed from the factory but repeated non uniform heating and cooling AND the bumps and scratches from use could very well lead to what you observed. This is a once in a hundred thousand use event I bet. Call Pyrex to see if they will send you some new cookware.

Tomm
;-P to you Vince!

You know what, I've been doing some internet research and I really have to question the safety of this product. There are many cases where these events have occurred that can be blamed by the manufacturer on a sudden thermal change, like putting it on a hot stovetop. But that definately did not happen here. It was at a low temperature, the oven door had been closed for 30 minutes, nobody in the room, etc...

Being in the oven is the INTENDED use for a pyrex cake pan. This would be the equivalent of a car spontaneously exploding in traffic.

I realize the irony of someone like me considering a product is unsafe - I drive a spyder with effectively zero safety equipment and a rather absurd amount of horsepower in TRAFFIC with cell phone yappers everywhere. I consider that to be a safer act than using a pyrex pan.

Getting rid of all of them. Vince, you want some pans?

angela
Angela: Getting back to the Pyrex stuff, way back in a former job where we actually used a lot of that stuff in the lab, we found that if there was a crack in the Pyrex, even a small one, and it was put in an oven and allowed to expand enough (we were working with 500-600 degrees F) the thermal distortions in the glass on both sides of the crack were enough to cause severe expansion along the crack, resulting in the dish self-destruction.

Looks like YOU found the same phenomenon........
First they outsourced the production to China. That was followed by Quality Control, and finally they sent the engineering team there too. Hey, it's cheap to buy, go to Wall Mart and get another one - if you dare!

And somewhere out there they are making replacement car parts for you right now . . . . .
Angela....you must throw all glass bakeware and go buy yourself some silicone bakeware, not sure if you know about it but that is all I use in my home, they are the BEST!!!! you don't even have to spray them with anything. Clean up is cinch, nothing sticks... I started with a bread one and I was hooked, so I went and I got the whole set...every household should use these...I highly recommend them.
Check them out, you will love them.
~Esther
I just came into this one late .... Angela, so I now understand you have gotten into Glass Blowing??!!

Gordon, do you have a turkey hunting license? In Colorado the upstanding Sheriff's Deputies/ Forest Service Wardens would have ticketed you for Out-of-Season.

What's next? One of our group going to park under a landing hot air balloon?

I hope everyone had a good Christmas and an excellent New Year. (leave the odd disasters at home and tell us about it at Morro Bay}

Happy Trails,

Dusty and the laughing LMS
Just to put the right physics to work here, allow me to explain that angela's Pyrex dish did not explode, exactly. It did suffer the fate of most tempered glass products when the temper layer is scratched deep enough or overly stressed, or a combination of the two -- like the case w/ Gordon's window. In angela's case there was no real external force present, just the internal stresses caused by the tempering and a mild thermal stress due to hash browns (?). In Gordon's case there was an external force (the sudden momentum change required of the bird due to its encounter w/ such a larger momentum already in progress, namley Gordon's fat a---, er, I mean Gordon's humgous truck). In each case the transformation of the glass into so many small bits is caused by the release of the high tensile and compressive stresses imposed on the wall of the glass during tempering. These high compressive stresses on the outside are balanced by high tensile stresses in the glass wall interior. Glass is VERY strong in compression, but much weaker in tension. All is hunky dory so long as the outer layer compression does not exceed the glass's limit (which is very high) or the layer is scratched, causing a stress concentration. If you get to that point the built-up internal stresses just run to completion in every direction releasing all that built-up strain energy, and the result is all those little pieces. The strain energy is turned into all that extra surface. This is not an explosive event, as there is no gas pressure or other form of energy available to push the glass particles away, so they just slump down. The crack propagation does take place very fast and will make a nice noise, as all have attested to. I believe you could be standing right next to angelas dish when if boke, and aside from being scared sh--less by the sudden noise, no danger would be present. The particles do not fly away. The many small granules of glass are felt to be much less dangerous than the few larger pices one would get with untempered glass, which will fail at lower loads and does so by forming only a few much larger pieces. In each case, BTW, the broken edges are just as sharp, but the small bits of tempered glass fragments are not big heavy daggers, and this is to the good. In the case of auto glass, safety is compounded by gluing two such tempered layers together w/ a very thin plastic film that holds all the wee tiny fragments together, more or less, should a fracture occur.

As for the white Corning ware, which as noted is a form of Pyroceram, this material is a fine grain ceramic and not amorphous glass. Pyroceram has a rather high tensile strength to begin with. It is not tempered. If it is loaded to failure, say by dropping it, it will fracture, but generally into a few large pieces, vs. the mirriad (?) small fragments you see in tempered glass failures. Turns out this material is used in the nose cones of rockets, and if heated fast enough (WAY faster that anything possible is a regular oven), it can build up enough stress throughout its wall that it will fracture into a lot of small pieces.

That's it kids; class dismissed.
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