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I just posted over on a tech site on Facebook and thought it best to also do this here .....

  'll drag over my soap box hopefully to be an advocate to others, Safety Clean , Brake Clean, Carb Clean, Lacquer Thinner, Gas and Diesel fuels. ALL will leach through your skin pores into your blood stream and from constantly doing this over an extended time as a well as and airborne inhalation of same you ....greatly... increase your risk of liver, kidney, bladder and or lung cancers.... This is not a Wife's Tale but fact. I am lucky and did all of the above for decades ...bladder cancer is scary and not fun but I am in the smaller percentile that still has a normal functioning bladder..... Gloves.....Be around to enjoy those grand kids.....  just a heads up ~

Last edited by Alan Merklin
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Sadly, a lifetime of ignoring TSBs is catching up with me. No cancer, but if I get any petroleum product at all on my hands, I get horrible muscle spasms. Wurth Brake and Parts Cleaner and Kerosene are the worst, but even getting a little grease on my hands while working around my engine will do it.

I’ve really been trying to wear gloves, but it’s a hard habit to break.

ps: A mechanic friend turned me on to these.
GLOVEWORKS HD Industrial Orange... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M...ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Pretty nice as far as gloves go, but order one size up. I ordered Lg based on their sizing and they’re hard to get on because they’re so small.

Last edited by dlearl476

Thank you, Alan. This is important stuff to remember. Glove material selection is very important and what is generally marketed as chemical resistant doesn't do anything like what people think.

First, my street cred: I worked doing environmental field work for 20 years. I was our 40 OSHA Hazmat safety trainer.

Now some facts and thoughts.  Health and safety are two different words and two different concerns.  Health is about not dying in the future; wearing protective gear so you don't get sick, either short term (catching the lateset bug down at the sewage treatment plant) or long term (cancer, aplastic anemia, etc from chemical exposure).  Safety is about not dying today; whether that's from a lethal chemical exposure, a lack of oxygen, or getting flattened by a backhoe. Gloves are primarily health protections. We are unlikely to die from today's immediate exposure, but we don't want to shuffle off our mortal coil befor our time from that exposure either.

For grease, oil, and paint/bodywork (stuff with isocyanates and the like) a thin nitril glove works fine. However; all the common powerful solvents, acetone, 1,1,1TCE and things found in carb cleaner, brake cleaner, electrical contact cleaner, etc. are highly volitile. Pretty much all of them go right through nitrile gloves like they weren't there. Because of their physical properties you don't really feel it; your hands feel dry. To chose gloves well you've got to do some research. Here's a process you can use once you've gotten hold of the material safety data sheets (MSDS) for your chemical of choice:

1. What chemical(s)

2. What concentrations

3. What temperatures

4. Frequency and duration of contact

5. Type of exposure (immersion, contact, ?)

6. Area protected (hands only, forearms, ?)

7. Required dexterity

You can find useful guides in Grainger's catalog, at OSHA, etc.

Genrally speaking a mid thickness butyl glove will be reusable and give you better protection from volitile solvents and gasoline (MTBE waltzes right through nitrile, too, if I recall correctly). They will definitely hinder your ability to play Rachmaninoff. But if you've chosen wisely you may live enough decades to get good at playing him.

Stay safe out there!

What I omitted was spray paint usage and WE ALL do it w/o masks ..... MASK UP ....My lungs are not the greatest but again,  I'm somehow very lucky and you guys are not doomed just yet ....  Michael has posted some really good information with tomorrow being a great day to begin " using protection " . ... BTW a lot of household cleaners can and are toxic too.

Funny story: Post bladder cancer tumor removal, I was required to has twelve BCT bladder out patient treatments,  this is actually cow Tuberculosis that is in liquid form ( yup!) It's inserted via a very small catheter that feels like a garden hose wrapped with 60 grit sand paper going in and has to remain in the bladder for one hour. I had one of the two same older Nurses weekly so that somewhat minimized the embarrassment. One particular week I had to cancel and reschedule the following day so my nurse replacement was ......Nurse Bob ! I never cancelled an appointment again and thus avoided.... Nurse Bob.

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I save my used CPAP nose pieces and flex hoses . If I am doing anything major I hook the flex hose to a longer hose and out the garage that hose goes for fresh air ...A silly, cheap and safe clean air source.     

Anyone still get to use the highly toxic & carcinogen Zinc Chromate primer ? ............aka " Moonscape"

Last edited by Alan Merklin

I save my used CPAP nose pieces and flex hoses . If I am doing anything major I hook the flex hose to a longer hose and out the garage that hose goes for fresh air ...A silly, cheap and safe clean air source.     

Funny, the first car I painted when we still lived in chilly Rhode Island was done inside our well-draped garage.

Like Alan, I stuck my CPAP machine outside and ran a long hose into the garage for non-lethal air. Everything else of me was covered with paint over spray, but by God, I had fresh air!

As some of you know, my wife suggested that the next paint job happen in the palace of tarp...

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