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Had a great run over the dragon on Saturday early morning run car ran great got to Knoxville while sitting at a red light lost the clutch towed her back home across the dragon that ride sucked.
Pulled the engine and found the clips for the release bearing in the bottom of the bell housing and the fork on bent on the right side bearing just hanging there.Is that a common problem ? Is there a better fork assemble available .Thanks Crazy Pete
1960 Envemo(Coupe)
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Had a great run over the dragon on Saturday early morning run car ran great got to Knoxville while sitting at a red light lost the clutch towed her back home across the dragon that ride sucked.
Pulled the engine and found the clips for the release bearing in the bottom of the bell housing and the fork on bent on the right side bearing just hanging there.Is that a common problem ? Is there a better fork assemble available .Thanks Crazy Pete

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Pete, how do the welds look on the clutch release forks themselves? Are they welded fully, or are they tack-welded on the insides and outsides of the contact surface?
I've heard recommendations in the past that those forks are the weak points on later clutch assemblies, and the frequent suggestion is to find the earliest clutch thrust bearing assembly you can which fits. Do you happen to know where your transaxle case came from? What year?
If you haven't taken the old arm off yet, that whole piece should be held onto the clutch fork by splines on a shaft which passes into the bell-housing from outside.
The outer metal arm will come off with a little elbow grease, or maybe a little uneven pressure at the gap. It might take a splitter-tool (like for ball joints -- sorry; don't know the right tool name); just avoid using the bell-housing as a lever.
The (brass-bronze-whatever) yellow-metal sleeve that's still stuck on there has a screw holding it in place. Hang on to that thing, the screw and remember to re-install them when you've got your new parts in-hand.
I know from my own experience that you have to manipulate the fork itself a bunch of times to get those yellow-metal parts to come out/off, even after you remove the screw.

It's possible -- entirely possible -- that I'm doing that stuff out of order, but it's what worked for me when I had to do it. I hope it goes easier for you than it did for me.
Good luck!

Pete, ask me how I know! Mine did this 2 weeks before Carlisle '05.
VW did away with that stinking clip style in 1970. Wonder why!
You can update to the newer(71-on) throw out bearing setup.
If I remember right, you'll need the newer throwout bearing, the throw out centering sleeve it rides on that bolts to the tranny, a new cross shaft that the bearing hangs on, and a you'll have to remove the ring that's snapped onto the pressure plate spring fingers. I had the welds beefed up on the cross shaft arms also.
What I'm not sure of is whether these newer parts will bolt right up to an older trans. (I bought a newer trans. that came with the newer setup)
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC-113-141-701-E
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC-113-141-165-BGR
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC-113-141-181-A
~WB

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Pete,

The failure you described is pretty much a common failure of a stock VW clutch throw out arm. There are several companies that offer welded and or a more robust part. Some people fit a "bus" throw out arm to get around the problem. Depending on which company you buy from the collection of parts required will vary. I went with a welded bus assembly but it was not a drop in fit, I had to do some extra work to install it...it is larger diameter and requires a different bearing in the transmission case AFAIK....not a big deal but never fun....
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