cryo treating valve springs?

I had the engine builer cryo the bearings in my new bug engine he also cryoed the(valve springs?) I don't think that is a good idea and I agreed to pay for it. But I requested he substitute to Uncryoed valve springs .

I could see doing the keepers on the valves.

But my instints tell me that would cause the springs to break easyer.


ANY takers on this one??

Just the opposite Barry. The cryogentic treatment of valve springs is one of the more important things done in as far as I know every NASCAR engine, Formula 1 engines, etc....a broken valve spring is one of the most common failures that happens to a high performance engine, and the cryo treatment reduces the chances of that failure CONSIDERABLY. And yes, all my engines steel parts have been "cryo'ed"....includes 10mm head bolts as well as valve springs, valves, and all rotating parts. Many racers will also cryo the entire engine block....it is not very expensive and it "normalizes" stress built into parts.....


Expert cryogenic treatment of metals and alloys to improve
strength, performance and wear properties


"Cryogenic, or super chilling of most metals and alloys and some plastics, reduces wear and stress to a far greater extent than untreated metals"

The benefits to you include:

Longer wearing components - generally extends life of tools and parts by 200% or more
Extended product life,
Less downtime on maintenance and change-over
Increased durability
Decrease wear
Reduce stress
Reduced distortion
Enhanced performance
Reduced heat retention
Increased horsepower
Treated items will exhibit life increase leading to dollar savings
Process can be applied to items that are new/used or sharp/ dull: remanufacturing or resharpening and best of all, sharpening or redressing worn tools will not destroy treatment effects
What metals can be cryogenically treated?

Any ferrous or non-ferrous metals
Cast iron
Aluminum
Alloys
Typical items that can be treated include:

Machine tool bits including end mills, saws and drills, industrial tooling, cutting blades for profiling etc
Virtually all engine components including heads, blocks, camshafts, crankshafts, rods and valve springs
Drive chain components including gearboxes and axles
Brake drums and rotors
Firearm barrels and actions
Golf clubs

Yeah, and the test techs where I once worked used to Cryo grapes and shoot'em at each other when the supervisors weren't looking...damn things would "explode" and shatter on impact.

"Increased durability
Decrease wear
Reduce stress
Reduced distortion
Enhanced performance "

hmmmmm..........Vince?

Is that from the cryogenics 101 handbook?

Is that from the cryogenics 101 handbook?

that would be yes, right off a website offering cryogenic treatments..

This is wayy Kool stuff. Thanks Jim and Gordan, you made my day!!!!

but be careful around them grapes.

AH ha hee he HUM!


I addition I did not go much bigger only about 1700 cc 85.5 x74 stroke with a aluminum block slighty larger valves and D port heads. Basicly a little more tourqe and hopefully longer life. i going to start out twin carbs and see what I get.

It is kinda like the HVW milage motor but less stroke and bigger valves to help it breathe and help the heat get out through bigger 1-5/8 header. and this is going in da bug.my guenni pig.


Thanks fellas.

Im having second thoughts about stock 85.5 clyinders
I still would be happyer with Nickies


I have a Krazy question will the 86.mm flat six clynders have the same lenth as a type -1s and would they bolt in?

They are actually cheaper than the other L&n nickies sets and you get 2 spares.