Dadgummit--I can't get the two screws outta the old Turn signal swithch> HELP!

Jack, I've had luck using a small pair of vise grips to loosen and turn them. If you have enough room a dremel tool or small file to gut a groove in the head to allow you to get enough bite to turn the screw.

What your dealing with is a tamper proof screw which is made to be able to turn clockwise but because the back shoulder of the head is tapered off so as not to allow the screw to be turned counter clockwise.

Good luck.

Why in the hell did they need a "tamper proof" screw???  I'll try the small vice groiip approach in the morning but I seem to remember that there is nothing raised enough to grab with the vice grips.  Thanks for your idea and response----much appreciated.

I found an interesting article that describes all the different phillips screws available on the market. Who'd a thunk there'd be so many?

http://www.instructables.com/i...a-Phillips/?ALLSTEPS

Jack, can you post a picture of what you have. I'm not sure what's been described above is the same as yours. It makes no sense!

Jack, I believe the type screw you are describing, with a cross shaped slot in the head is a "vampire slayer" screw! You'll need a clove of garlic,and a wooden stake to be able to remove it. Please exercise caution,and make sure you do it in direct sunlight,as this will cause the screws to be consumed in flames. Problem solved!

These screws do exist, unfortunately.  Someone used them to secure a couple of door hinges in my house, and they were a real pain to remove.  I finally had to use a flat screwdriver as a pry bar and a hammer to loosen them, then pry/pull them out.  You cannot remove them with a flat screwdriver, as the screw head only allows them to turn in one direction - that of tightening.

They are not a Phillips head screw, nor are they any other type of standard screw.  They are a security screw.

Jack - is this what the screw looks like? 

https://www.google.ca/search?q...WI34MKHfWlDuQQsAQIPw

You will probably have to grab the screw head with something, and try to twist the screw out.  Do a Google search on this.

Could the head be drilled off and then drill and put an ez out extractor in?

If I'm right and Jack's screws aren't anything like the tamper-proof screws shown above, then drilling them out and trying to use an easy-out will just make things worse.

But I wonder if the screw heads are big enough and accessible enough to get in there with a Dremel tool and a worn cut-off wheel (the smaller diameter the better) to use the cut-off wheel to cut a slot in each screw head to get a regular screw driver in there and spin them out.

That's all I've got, without seeing a photo of the screws.

Yup, a picture would help us to help you.

Gordon:  You are probably correct on this.  I can't see security screws being used in this application.

Here is the only picture I can find of turn signal screws, but it is not too clear:

https://www.wolfsburgwest.com/...st.cfm?ID=111953573A

Jack might need a flat nose Phillips screw driver, not a pointed one?

Mr. Dumb-ass here with an update.  Well the two screws were part of the old turn signal switch and were never necessary to remove to get the old switch out.  As was mentioned above, the switch is held in by just a simple Phillips head screw at the left side of the switch.  Everything is great now, new switch works perfectly.  My powers of observation really suck.  Thanks for everyone who chimed in with suggestions---much appreciated. 

My new motto:  "seldom right but never in doubt!"

That's okay Jack.  After all, you do play the banjo...

Seriously, I'm glad you got it all sorted out!

Thanks a lot Bob.  Banjo playing does have some nice perks and I was recently told that if I will hang my banjo picks on my rear view mirror, I am authorized to park in a handicapped space!

Hey Jack, when it comes to playing the banjo two heads are better than one.

Ron.......     If you find your car "Super Glued" to the tarmac at Carlisle,  we all know who and why....    Just good clean all American Speedster owner's fun and games....

And now, back to our regularly scheduled thread drift....  

Let's put a fork in this one!  Thanks to all for a lot of suggestions for which I am grateful.