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Asking for advice on this site is an excellent use of it. Most of us tend to operate under the impression that everybody is entitled to our individual opinions.

However, telling guys what/how to post is less welcome than you might think. Tom's been here a long time and is free to post an inside joke in "your" thread if he'd like. Every single post on this site eventually devolves into inside banter within a page or two, unless it's super-interesting or super boring (at which point it dies a natural death).

FWIW, the "h" Mitch referenced (which you did not understand) was missing from "wisper" in Tom's post. Mitch was attempting to diffuse the tension that seems to be building. It's building mostly because you seem intent on controlling the narrative. Nobody can control the narrative here. Lots of guys have tried. None of them hang out here any more. 

At this point, we've moved past your transaxle growl (and may never come back to it), because you yourself have taken the focus off of the original question (and good answers you already got), and put it on the responses you are getting.

But in an effort to start out on the right foot, I'll get back to the growl. Here's my suggestion: reread all of the posts in this thread pertaining to Type 1 transaxles and noise, especially Gordon's (he took enough time to link pictures-- not many people care enough about a stranger's transaxle to take that much time). Everything you might want to know is there, there really isn't much to add.

To summarize: they make more noise than you think they would, especially on deceleration. Sometimes it's indicative of an issue, sometimes it's just how it is. It's impossible to definitively diagnose over the internet, especially without a sound clip. Older designs are noisier than newer ones. What we are all using now probably make more noise than they did when they were brand new from Germany. In that vein, German and Swedish replacement transaxle bearings are generally of high-quality, Brazilian less so, and Chinese bearings are pretty shabby. You can change the ones most likely to be the culprit without a complete tear-down, but the box needs to be out of the car. Use mineral oil. 

Lather, rinse, repeat.

So... who do you like in the Super Bowl?

Stan Galat, '05 IM, 2276, Tremont, IL posted:

Asking for advice on this site is an excellent use of it. Most of us tend to operate under the impression that everybody is entitled to our individual opinions.

However, telling guys what/how to post is less welcome than you might think. Tom's been here a long time and is free to post an inside joke in "your" thread if he'd like. Every single post on this site eventually devolves into inside banter within a page or two, unless it's super-interesting or super boring (at which point it dies a natural death).

FWIW, the "h" Mitch referenced (which you did not understand) was missing from "wisper" in Tom's post. Mitch was attempting to diffuse the tension that seems to be building. It's building mostly because you seem intent on controlling the narrative. Nobody can control the narrative here. Lots of guys have tried. None of them hang out here any more. 

At this point, we've moved past your transaxle growl (and may never come back to it), because you yourself have taken the focus off of the original question (and good answers you already got), and put it on the responses you are getting.

But in an effort to start out on the right foot, I'll get back to the growl. Here's my suggestion: reread all of the posts in this thread pertaining to Type 1 transaxles and noise, especially Gordon's (he took enough time to link pictures-- not many people care enough about a stranger's transaxle to take that much time). Everything you might want to know is there, there really isn't much to add.

To summarize: they make more noise than you think they would, especially on deceleration. Sometimes it's indicative of an issue, sometimes it's just how it is. It's impossible to definitively diagnose over the internet, especially without a sound clip. Older designs are noisier than newer ones. What we are all using now probably make more noise than they did when they were brand new from Germany. In that vein, German and Swedish replacement transaxle bearings are generally of high-quality, Brazilian less so, and Chinese bearings are pretty shabby. You can change the ones most likely to be the culprit without a complete tear-down, but the box needs to be out of the car. Use mineral oil. 

Lather, rinse, repeat.

So... who do you like in the Super Bowl?

Aloha Stan Galat:  Thanks for schooling me on the use and purpose of the SOC site.

hawaiiantub posted:

Aloha Stan Galat:  Thanks for schooling me on the use and purpose of the SOC site.

Hey 'der, hawaiiantub: You are most welcome for the schooling. 

I'm assuming your comment was meant at least a slight bit sarcastically... which means you'll fit right in, assuming you can take it as well. We riff on each other a bit here, but you'll find us to be a generally genial bunch of guys.

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