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Hi guys. I have been reading this web site for a few months and really appreciate all of your input. I am interested in buying a vintage speedster, but I am torn between a deluxe kit and a turnkey. How big of a project is a deluxe kit? What exactly is needed, how much work, unplanned fabrication, and how much time would I reasonably expect to complete? I am mechanically inclined and plan on working with a friend of mine who welds and is very familiar with air cooled volkswagons. I am just looking for a reasonable idea so I can make my decision. Thanks all!
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Hi guys. I have been reading this web site for a few months and really appreciate all of your input. I am interested in buying a vintage speedster, but I am torn between a deluxe kit and a turnkey. How big of a project is a deluxe kit? What exactly is needed, how much work, unplanned fabrication, and how much time would I reasonably expect to complete? I am mechanically inclined and plan on working with a friend of mine who welds and is very familiar with air cooled volkswagons. I am just looking for a reasonable idea so I can make my decision. Thanks all!
Mike, have you read the documentation on building a kit which is available on the home page? There is a ton of good information in this writeup. It has been my impression that most of the folks who build their cars do it for the love of building and less because they think they will save a pile of money. It's a great project, but don't underestimate the scope of it. Incomplete kits are available for Speedsters and other cars, probably because the kit purchaser failed to adaquately assess what is required to complete one.
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John H.
Mike,

I built a deluxe chesil kit last year which looks similar to the VS kit in terms of level of construction.

Took me 9 months from receiving the kit/my bare shortened chassis back to getting it on the road, having started refurbing the donor parts whilst waiting for the kit. I used external services like blasting and powder coating to speed the build, and bought a refurbished longblock.

Building a kit is a great hobby, but doesn't save you money over new.

This was my second kit, built better than my first.

Which way to go depends on whether you'll enjoy building or driving.

I kept a diary of my build at www.hambly.org.uk/chesil which might give you an idea of whats involved.

Simon

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I am currently building my own speedster. I can say that I will save a ton over a new turnkey, if I don't consider my time. By the time I am done I should have $8000 or so in my car. But then I watch for bargains and pick them up where I can.

This is the first kit car I have built but by far not the first car I have built. I am no machinist but I can do all the other things required, top to bottom. I only rely on others for sand blasting and powdercoating.

Having said that I would say I will have around 3.5 weeks at 8 hrs a day in the build. If you are not as experienced as I then it will take a little longer. Now divide that up over how ever many hours per day you will actually get to work on the car. I expect it will take me 9 months or so.

I bought a 20 year old never completed CMC Kit ($3400 with pan and most parts). I should expect a new kit without the 20 years of knock around would be easier and quicker to build.

My scattered thoughts
Mike,
I tell everyone to take very seriously the warning on the Vintage website.
"This kit takes significant time (months) to assemble and will require the owner to supply an entire VW donor automobile. Expert fabrication, welding, electrical, assembly, body and air-cooled engine experience are needed. This is not a step-by-step assembly and will require unplanned fabrication that is unique to each build. This configuration is best left to very experienced builders."

-=theron
Based on my experiences the Vintage Speedster's warning is accurate. I'm glad to see it on the web site!
Too many buyers were duped years ago by that former Florida company that stated you could build their kit in " a few weekends" with hand tools.
That's the reason there are still many unassembled kits in garages with piles of old lawn furniture and cartons stacked on top of what was at one time, a shiny gelcoat body.
As one of those Florida company dupees, I, too, thought that this would be a six-month project. That would be perfect, too, as my doctor suggested at the time that I get a hobby to help me forget the stress at work for a while.

As it turns out, it became an on and off project (mostly on, but very part-time) for the next nine years. Along the way, I learned how to weld, apply fiberglass properly, avoid the use of bondo and how to custom-fabricate all kinds of things including custom tools. I also did a whole lot of research on what I wanted this car to become, which parts to use (and NOT use) and where to get them. I resurrected my long-dormant VW engine building skills from the long-lost Dune Buggy days of the '60's and '70's - some of it still applied, some of it didn't, as the parts technology of these engines has evolved whilst I didn't (it took a BIG leap of faith to set my valve lash at .002!)

In the end, the biggest thing I learned was patience, since EVERYTHING seemed to become a custom build and here in New England there are hardly any places left that get involved with "affordable" customs, let alone air-cooled engines (Many that did have gone the Harley Davidson route or abandoned it all together).

The best thing about it all? I could go into the shop and totally forget about my day job while I was working on the car - for years and years on end. That was the best!

And in the end, I built a really cool car that's the envy of all those I used to work with who caused me that stress - PRICELESS!
The ChristChurch show last weekend.

First show i've managed to get to; infact first long trip (100 miles) since finishing the car last September.

We were amazed at the number of people rubber-necking as they passed us on the motorway - including Subaru WRX (Don't do it Ron!), Boxster, TVR, and X5 owners.

I love this car :))

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I don't think I'll really get used to the stares and comments from people on the road. Sometimes it gets tedious, especially if you're in a hurry to get somewhere or the person is negative or something, but it's usually ego-boosting.

I've found a special car-affinity with the leather-clad, gnarley-looking Harley Biker types around New England, too. Lots of waves and thumbs up and really BIG smiles from the girls on the back of the bikes (although some of them, well, you know - they're Biker-types). I've also found that when I'm crowded from behind on a highway off-ramp by a kid in an X5, downshifting and powering through the curve easily leaves the X5 in the dust!

That looks like it was a good sized show. Down near the coast, if memory serves, and must have been a nice run for the day. Glad you had such a good time!

gn
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