Does This Car Belong to Any of You Guys?

This is another replicar for sale on eBay, #190075642234, that does replicars a disservice.

It looks like a clean Vintage Speedster but aside from a carrera decklid I fail to see any GS/GT features. The car is listed as a 1959 and has beehive tail lights. The bumpers are painted without the flat trim typical of GTs and for $34K I'd expect at least a CB spacer kit or whatever to get to a wide five wheel pattern.

What shows of the interior is again a nice offering for a standard replica including the poochy little door pockets. Not GT/GS trim.

For those of you considering a replica, do your homework. Unless this car has some real hidden talents somewhere, it looks like a $20K replica.

Grouchy in Benicia

OMG Paul,

I was TOTALLY going to post about that ride when I saw it, but I thought that it would make me appear as even more of a nudge than I already am ! ! !

I often cruise through the "356 + Porsche" section of Ebay, just looking for styling ideas and trim details and such and went right to that one to check for little interior touches.

It isn't a clone of anything; more like a bad Xerox. A copy of a copy of a . . . ?

Not to be a snob or anything, but it's WAY wrong to list replica Speedsters in the Porsche section. I mean Cobras go in with kit cars, even T-buckets do for the most part. It's ESPECIALLY "way wrong" when my internet connection is running slowly and I waste my time, and wait FOREVER, clicking on what seems like a neat car and end up with a badly turned replica, usually out of somewhere in AZ. Somehow Arizona has the very WORST Speedsters on this planet . . .

A a a a r r r g g g h h h ! ! ! ! ! !

There, I'm feelin' a LOT better.


Mad in Massachusetts.

I don't have a problem with where the replicar is listed for sale. I did get a reply from the seller and he says the car has a 1600 engine with dual Webers and that the GT/GS features are the delete body trim, badges, painted to match bumpers and the decklid.

At $34K,that is a hose job.

I emailed him as well. Apparently he thinks it's worth it because it was made for some " producer ", a guy named Jones I never heard of. I like the color and emailed him to see if there's a realistic price. He will not budge.He said it's 1 of 1 and valuable.

hey all..
not to get too far off this subject, but I noticed high bidder on this car was someone called 'bidder 1' I also do a lot ebay 'wishing' looking at replicas, rods, motorcycles and the like and notice that a great percentage of the time the high bidder on all of these things are someone called 'bidder 1' 'bidder 2' or 'bidder 3'...I did a search of bidder 1's history and he/she has 56 bids in the last 30 days...is this one of those 'shill' bidders just to drive up the price?
just wondering...please correct me if I'm wrong

Frank,
It's some new thing ebay is doing to protect bidders ID, or something like that? On some auctions you won't see the persons "ebay name" you'll only see them as bidder 1, or which ever bidder they came in as, or at least that is how I understand it.

The Bidder 1 etc is a way that ebay provides tools for sellers to do the private auctions. If I were to enter a bid and I was the second bidder on that car, I'd be Bidder2 with 610 purchases and a 99.5 rating or whatever...I'm pretty sure what that's what that's about.

Provenance can boost prices of some stuff but a $20K replicar pumped to $34K because a behind-the-scenes Hollowoodie owned it???

thanks for explaining...now I feel pretty 'dense' for telling myself:
damn! that bidder 1 guy sure gets around...but seriously, my ebay experience is pretty well limited to a couple of items of which the most high dollar was a camera which I stressed over until it arrived in the mail...

if I were a collector, I could see paying major money for a vehicle that had provenance associated with some historical event or person...such as the JFK limo, the Bonnie & Clyde car, the first or last of a model... etc. but to pay 15K more than the car is worth because someone owned it that most of us have never heard of is just plain silly...I think that my old IM has more historical significance and provenance by being one of the first few ever built...does this mean I can sell it for 34K?

Hey Frank...Just tell them your brother Dan Hartman, the one-hit wonder from the 80's used to own it. Now that he's no longer getting royalties on "I Can Dream About You", he has to sell it. That should be worth $14,000 to the right person.

"You won't want to miss the chance to own the ONLY one like it on the road!" Yeah right! Remember John Leader's outstanding JPS?? As you'll notice this is either a VS or a JPS car.

...hmmmmm. I have a 1957 VW singlecab for sale with a remarkable now infamous provenance. Too bad only VW guys are interested in it as they are notoriously cheap. My vehicle's tales (and subsequent bump in value) can not offset, uh miserly-nous. Damn!

Hey! I am not cheap! Just picky!

I wouldn't mind having the names and phone numbers of those guys who didn't know that car wasn't worth $250K.