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Nope, looks like those crafty buggers put the external cooler up above the tranny in the "dead spot" behind thie rear seat.

 

Lane was pro'bly right about the AN fittings below the tranny going to the A/C or something but not to the oil cooler.

 

It also looks like there is no external oil filter - a waste, considering the hoses are already there, the fittings would be 20 bucks and a spin-on adapter costs another 20 bucks.

Do I need to add an external oil filter?
What maintenance is needed for this external cooler?
Thanks!
 
 
 
Originally Posted by Gordon Nichols - Massachusetts 1993 CMC:
Nope, looks like those crafty buggers put the external cooler up above the tranny in the "dead spot" behind thie rear seat.

It also looks like there is no external oil filter.

Pretty fast on the typing trigger!  

 

Do you NEED an external filter?  On that engine, no.  Just change the oil and flush the screen above the sump plate every 3,000 miles.   Would an add-on external be a benefit?  Absolutely.  The sump screen filters out stuff the size of grains of sand (think small pebbles) while an external filter captures stuff like fine, airborne dust.

 

There is no maintanence needed for an external cooler unless the engine oil gets sludge-laden from not changing it often and cloggs up the cooler passages.  If the oil is THAT dirty, you'll clog the internal cooler first, over heat and seize the engine.  That way you'll know something is wrong    ;&gt

 

i would have yur mechanic look for an external filter somewhere back there.  If VS went to the trouble to add a fuel pressure regulator that IMHO you probably don't need, then I would think they would add an oilfilter.

I'm brand new to the speedster.  Still trying to figure everything out.  Thanks so much for all the info.

 

I live in Oklahoma where it gets super hot in the summer.  The temps have been around 50-60 recently and I have never heard the external oil cooler turn on.  Is there a way to test it?  How do I know it is working properly?

 

Just for clarification, the two black "garden hoses" carry oil from the engine to the cooler and back?

 

Looking under the car, any other issues that you guys see that I need to address?

 

Thanks so much!

 

Adam

 

P.S. Anyone have a diagram on how to check the oil, I can not figure out where the "dip stick" is.  As you can tell, I am not mechanically inclined but I am really trying to learn as much as I can. 

Originally Posted by karpems:

P.S. Anyone have a diagram on how to check the oil, I can not figure out where the "dip stick" is.  As you can tell, I am not mechanically inclined but I am really trying to learn as much as I can. 

Dip stick is just to the right of the lower pulley, right behind the belt. Just look for the finger loop.

"The temps have been around 50-60 recently and I have never heard the external oil cooler turn on.  Is there a way to test it?  How do I know it is working properly?"

 

No easy way for you to test it, but a competent mechanic could jumper the fan (it should have one) to see if it's OK.  Other than that, wait for hot weather and see if it comes on as it should or spend the Spring finding someone on here who is local to you and has some experience to help you get used to your new toy.

 

"Just for clarification, the two black "garden hoses" carry oil from the engine to the cooler and back?"

 

Yes, that's correct.  And from what we've seen here tonight, you need to move them away from the hot heater box......an inch away (or more) would be fine.

Yes....you have hot air heat (remember, the engine is air cooled) and the heater boxes (which provide the heat) are those long, silver/gray boxes attached to the muffler pipes.  They have some sort of a bracket attached to the driver's side box which holds the oil hoses in place - that's good, but it would be better if the bracket was changed to hold the hoses a bit farther away from the box, in towards the finned crankcase another inch or so.  If you didn't do this, the world wouldn't end......you might have to change the hoses every six years or so as they get brittle.

Mine has plates on both sides protecting the hoses.  They managed to get broken where you see the little circular tab hanging down on the rear of the finned case.  The whole tab broke off, probably from me driving the crap out of it on a bumpy road, or me being careless over a speed bump.  The welds on the tab to heater box connection also broke, but that is an easy fix. I wish there was an easy fix for the finned case that looked good as new  Either way the protection is still there for the hoses from crap flying up and puncturing them.

Originally Posted by Cole Thompson - 2009 VS - Laporte, CO:

My VS 1runs with external cooler runs every hot in the summer in CO.  I lowered compression from 9:1 to 8:1 and I'm hoping this will fix it.

 

i also installed an external oil filter.

Motor specs? doghouse shroud and cooler? what weight oil are you running? oil pressures at warm idle and highway cruising speeds? do you have more air intake into the engine compartment than just the holes in the lid? cylinder head temp gauge? is all the engine tin installed and the motor properly sealed off so heat from the exhaust (and spent cooling air) isn't entering the engine compartment? 

Originally Posted by Doug Borden '10 Vintage Super WIDE SoCal:

ALB. Reference CHT's where do you recommend locating the probes? 1, 2 or 4 probe(s)? Thanks

Underneath a spark plug works best (is closest to the actual combustion chamber and gives readings in "real time"); most people use 1 probe under #3. I believe Stan Galat runs 4 and says you can see something wrong with a cylinder at a glance. 

Hope this helps. Al

 why not???nothing rong with that. but keep the oil lines off the header in any case. the angkle of the pic makes it look like it's lower than it is., but if you have 22"rear tires it may pose a issue. I have the same bracket on mine, the long filter is over 11" off the ground, the sump hangs lower as does the rear shock mount a few feet ahead of it. and I have a good bit shorter tires on mine than that buggy does. and you do not want a bypass valve inline on a filter.Originally Posted by Ron O:

Here's a good example of where you should NOT put an external oil filter.

 

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Last edited by marksbug
Originally Posted by marksbug:
 why not???nothing rong with that. but keep the oil lines off the header in any case. the angkle of the pic makes it look like it's lower than it is., but if you have 22"rear tires it may pose a issue. I have the same bracket on mine, the long filter is over 11" off the ground, the sump hangs lower as does the rear shock mount a few feet ahead of it. and I have a good bit shorter tires on mine than that buggy does. and you do not want a bypass valve inline on a filter.Originally Posted by Ron O:

Here's a good example of where you should NOT put an external oil filter.

 

4839308

 

huh?  that is pretty much the worse place to mount an oil filter on that car.  it hangs down clearly lower than the oil pump.

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