I'm stumped at least until I have another go at it tomorrow morning . All new drum brake system on a dune buggy. New German bench bled master cylinder, correct pedal rod adjustment, new stainless lines, oem hoses, wheel cylinders, shoes & brake hardware. E' brake off and cables are free, adjusted the shoes correctly . Bled the system starting at the usual farthest passenger side rear wheel blah blah blah. Have good fluid pressure but the pedal is only I" off the floor and soft. Only thing I can conclude is that I may have a bad new cylinder yet again I have fluid pressure at each wheel cylinder............... What say you?
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I had trouble getting an initial good pedal in my Spyder when I installed the 4 piston fronts and single piston rears with the correct MC. I even used Teflon/SS braided lines. I did not have to resort to residual pressure valves or anything like that.
When bleeding, you need 3 hard and rapid pumps and a hold, then bleed. Pump that pedal VIOLENTLY and quickly. You'll be amazed at how much air comes out. You should be good after that with a nice high and firm pedal.
You owe me a beer next year, Alan...
Sounds like you might have a mismatched M/C. From my pedal upgrade I know that the front disc and 4 drum M/C are different. I assume that has to do with the different fluid capacities of the two systems and the amount of fluid required to activate the slave/caliper.
Calipers require a little more fluid to flow vs. wheel cylinders. This is achieved by a larger bore.
If Alan has the wrong master, and I'm sure he doesn't, the brake pedal would be HIGHER than the other way round.
Has all new drums, a second look and both rear drums out of the box are warped, I'll turn the tomorrow and go from there.
@Alan Merklin posted:Has all new drums, a second look and both rear drums out of the box are warped, I'll turn the tomorrow and go from there.
What brand so I NEVER buy them for a customer?
I'm still waiting to see if it was really another bad master cylinder....
Turning the drums tomorrow, replacement master cylinder here on Saturday. Not sure what brand the rear drums are.
How far were your drums off Alan? You got me thinking, I may take my new Italian drums down to OReilly to have them spun up, just to check.
Are the drums Centric, Alan?
Did the drums on a lathe today.... new, they were like "eggs" but had been siting for 5 years . In the future I'll put a dial indicator to the new ones. I put it all back together and still have the low spongy pedal issue, the new master cylinder was to be here today ...tomorrow's another day ~
These were drum I brought here from my home shop in PA and sat for some time They are OEM VW113501615B