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I was going to have a local shop install dropped spindles for me along with doing the ball joints and tie rod ends, etc.....

Before i spend the money can anyone tell me just how big a job it is in case I want to try it myself? I have done major work before on other cars. New springs, axle seals, replaced an engine all on Land Rovers in front of my house (neighbors love me).

Any thoughts?

Tony Miller
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I was going to have a local shop install dropped spindles for me along with doing the ball joints and tie rod ends, etc.....

Before i spend the money can anyone tell me just how big a job it is in case I want to try it myself? I have done major work before on other cars. New springs, axle seals, replaced an engine all on Land Rovers in front of my house (neighbors love me).

Any thoughts?

Tony Miller
You will probably need a pickle fork to separate the tie rod form the spindle and possibly a larger pickle fork to break the ball joints free from the spindles. Careful it is easy to tear the rubber boots on the tie rod joint. The new ball joints have to be pressed in and out with a hydraulic press. You will need an alignment when you are done.

Dropped spindles use standard length shocks. The spindle is located 2
Note on the ball joints, make sure that the two notches on the top side of the ball joint line up so that if you drew a line through them it would be pointing to the front and back of the car. This will insure that as the suspension moves the ball joint will be moving correctly. Maybe this is a no-brainer for everyone else but the first time I did ball joints I couldn't figure out why the front suspesion was so stiff, then I realized.....
Tony!

If you have to ask, maybe this is a sign.

But, first:

Disconnect Speedo Cable L/F
Disconnect Break Lines (Front)
Disconnect Ball Joints with Pickle Fork(if Ball Joint Car)
Disconnect Shocks
Disconnect Spindle & Remove Assembly

Remove any warn or damaged suspension components.

Install New Drop Spindle L/F and torque to Spec.
Take New Inner/Outer Bearing & Pack with Grease. Install Inner/Outer
Bearing Races. Add Grease to Inner Portion of Disc where spindle inserts. Position Inner Bearing, and install New Wheel Seal to rear of Disc.

Slip Disc over Drop Spindle. Insert Outer Bearing into Disc and position in outer race. Start Washer/Spindle on Spindle.

I backing Plates are utilized they should be position prior to positioning Disc.

Attach Caliper to Spindle and attch to MFG Torque Spec.

Attach Break Line to Caliper.

Attach New Ball to Spindle and "perform Curcury Alignment."

Spin Disc Assembly and tighen Spindle Nut.

Install Spindle/Hub Cap (Not Wheel Cover)

Insert Speedo Cable into rear of Spindle and once inserted thru Hub Cap positon with fastener(Carter Key etc.)

Re-attach Shock.

Bleed Breaks

Take to alignment shop for 4 Wheel Alignment/Check Bump Steer.

Buy VW Manual for reference.

This will get you started!

Jack



It can be done in several hours and is really easy if you've done it before (or even watched someone). I've done it on three cars and, when all goes right, it's a snap and fun to do.

That said (don't you HATE that phrase . . . ) if you've never done it before you should have a shop do it this time. The labor cost will only be three/four hours, you've probably already got all the parts, you'll only be charged extra for grease and cotter pins, and you KNOW that it's done right.

If they'll let you, watch them doing the work. Once the wheels, rotors and calipers are off, you remove the cotter pins and nuts from the ball joints and tie rod ends. Pull the ends out of the spindle mounts, hit the spindle on the "flats" near the ball joints until they "pop" free, pull the speedometer out of the old spindle, replace the old spindle with the new. Make sure that the camber adjusters are set correctly, and reassemble in reverse order.

It's a perfect time to install new bearings or, at least, repack the old ones. It's also a good time to check the pads and replace them as well.

Once done you loosen the four bolts holding the beam in place, remove the bottom two entirely, install the caster shims under the beam where it mounts to the frame head, and replace the bottom two bolts with the longer ones that you ordered with the shims, tighten/torgue it up and . . .

DONE!

Unless I've forgotten something, if that's the case . . . do THAT as well . . . and . . .

DONE!

Luck,
TC

Oh, wait . . . I'm getting a vision from the future now . . . if Wolfgang posts that you don't need castor shims . . . he's wrong . . . and, wait . . . there's another vision . . . yes . . . yes . . . it's coming clear . . if Jack posts some lengthy directions . . . they're incomplete . . . now the vision is fading . . . fading . . . gone . . .
Okay guys, great tips. I am thinking that maybe I will eave this to the local shop instead. Like I said I have done lots on my old Rovers, including an engine swap and I built the motor I put in, BUT, I am 10 years older and 10 years crankier. In all honesty I just don't have the patience I had before so maybe it's better left to an expert...........lacking that the guy at the local shop will have to do .

Now, what's with the castor shims? I have not heard of that before. When I was asking about the parts at Peek no one mentioned those.

Best,
Tony
Oooppsss!!!

Alan's right, so's Wolfgang ! Don't listen to a word that I "say!"

The shims are used with a dropped/adjustable beam. Not really needed when the spindles are dropped.

Sorry guys! Luckily the shims would only have helped high speed handling, but still, were it something else, I could have caused a problem/accident/worse . . . yikes!

Again, genuinely sorry here
get yourself a bently manual and you can do it on a sat no problem. Instead of paying a shop to press out and in the new ball joints- for the same price you can pic up a ball joint tool from harbor freight and do them yourself. Most shops charge 10-20 per ball joint. Then be sure to re-align your car when its all done! hope this helps
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