Empi front swaybar pictures

Did you notch/alter the bumper brackets prior to the installation of the anti-sway bar?

Thanks Robert do you have a side view that show how far off the ground the bar is, I attached a couple of pict, does it look correct?

I think mine is an ADDCO anti sway bar but it looks like Robert M's installation.  Both have more of a bend than the Empi one you have in photo.  To me it looks like yours is upside down.  Flipping it would give more ground clearance but probably would require mods to the bumper brackets.

Here photos of mine.  When I first let it off the jack stands - the bar collided with the bumper brackets and I had to pull them off and cut and weld them.

Thanks for the pictures, I've flipped it several times and it only makes a small difference because of the angles.  In the pictures I've included it looks like flipping the bar would get it closer to the spring tubes but the reality is only about 1/4" inch.  There is 6"  between the bar and the garage floor I want to know if that is enough?  Thanks

Your bar is installed correctly.

With the weight off the tires the sway bar will be at its upper most limit of movement. I never liked the bumper brackets 40 years ago. You might want to look at my driving light mounts. With a little modification these could work for you.

Thanks Jim

@R Thorpe posted:

Thanks Robert do you have a side view that show how far off the ground the bar is, I attached a couple of pict, does it look correct?

Your bar is different from mine. I believe, IIRC, that the one you have installed is designed to be used on a vehicle with a lowered front end. I have the standard bar which is why I, and others, had to modify our bumper brackets.

As far as I know I ordered a standard bar and it is the same general shape as the stock one I removed ( only larger diameter). My car has not been lowered. When the car is on the ground the bar sits as in the pictures. When the car is on the lift with the wheels off the bar is hard against the speedster bumper supports.

Her is a picture of the "stock" bar I replaced. The Empi bar look the same only thicker.

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Here's the bar that came on my 2013 VS, as VS installed it (with about seven years worth of road patina carefully applied).

I've always assumed this is the 'standard' (??) Empi bar. Spindles are stock (not lowered spindles). Ground clearance is about 4.5".

If you jack up the front end enough to lift the wheels off the ground, the bar gradually rises until it contacts the stock VS bumper brackets. The arrow indicates the nice dimple in the bracket that forms over time. This is why some folks have modified the brackets.

I guess the bar will contact the bracket while driving over sharp bumps (on the rebound), but in practice I'm not aware of this happening or causing any issues. I think if you're driving hard enough to routinely lift the front wheels off the ground, you will eventually encounter more serious problems - like oncoming traffic, trees, and various immovable objects. The steering works best when tires are kept in contact with the pavement.

I had more ground clearance issues in the rear, with an extended sump that hung down too low. I swapped in a different sump and had the rear raised so that the clearance is now about an inch more than in the front and this has worked well.

At 4.5", the front clearance seems more than adequate.

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Thanks Mitch,

Thats just about what my setup looks like, when you take the weight off the car the sway bar comes up against the bumper supports, luckily I have just under 6 inches of ground clearance probably due to Greg going to 195’s.

@R Thorpe posted:

Thanks Mitch,

Thats just about what my setup looks like, when you take the weight off the car the sway bar comes up against the bumper supports, luckily I have just under 6 inches of ground clearance probably due to Greg going to 195’s.

You're good to go then. Like Mitch said keep the wheels on the ground and you'll be okay.

Yup

That is correct

looks just like my setup.  Thank you.

@R Thorpe @thedak What model Bilstein’s do you guys have? I installed Bilstein’s all the way around on my 96’ 4Runner last summer, they seem to be a quality product.

I have the sport and hd Bilsteins specified for a 1970 VW the year of my frame.  Sport in the front and HD in the back .  They are avaliable all over the place. Depending on your application you will need the VW mounts for the front shocks. They made a big diff over the "white" Empi's

I have bilsteen all around with 911 front end

I find them a bit stiff IMO Konis might be a better choice

@thedak posted:

That is correct

@R Thorpe what size are the front and rear sway bar. Purchase where? Thanks

My front and rear swaybars are Empi avaliable in one size for various configurations. I think they cand be purchased at many VW parts stores.

@TwinCitiesSpeedster posted:

@R Thorpe @thedak What model Bilstein’s do you guys have? I installed Bilstein’s all the way around on my 96’ 4Runner last summer, they seem to be a quality product.

https://www.csp-shop.com/en/br...tml?cache=1616266475

@thedak That has got to be the cleanest Speedster belly I have ever seen. WTH?!!! Do you drive it? Just kidding of course. If I had a lift mine would probably be a lot clearer also. But dang that looks good.

Full wipe down after every drive.  

haha