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Hi! Is this a good deal ? Please if you can watch this site www.comprar.etc.br/search.asp?q=PORSHE+ENVEMO.
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Thanks 4 your comments.
Facundo, hard to say since I can't understand the non-English text. Beyond that, it looks like you are looking at cars over 20 years old, so condition and ongoing maintenance is everything. You would have to see or have somebody look at the cars for you to find that out.
That being said, there was one Envemo Cabriolet that showed up at our East Coast Speedsterowners gathering in Carlisle, PA and it was a really nice automobile. I thought that I was looking at the genuine article when I saw it. In other words, maybe it's a good buy and maybe it isn't.
That being said, there was one Envemo Cabriolet that showed up at our East Coast Speedsterowners gathering in Carlisle, PA and it was a really nice automobile. I thought that I was looking at the genuine article when I saw it. In other words, maybe it's a good buy and maybe it isn't.
Wow,
I just realized that Envemo isn't listed in the makers section. I will add them soon.
Kevin Hines originally posted this about Envemo
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The company that made the 1964 356C reproductions (about 250 units made for the world) was called ENVEMO S-90 (ENgineering of VEhicles and MOtors). It was founded in 1981 by Luis Fernando Concalves and his father. Made mostly coupes, then some cabs as well.
One of the most faithful reproductions ever done. Luis was a personal friend, and we brought about 45 "kits" total to the USA, sold by GCE Import/Export in Louisiana, then later moved operation to Texas. (See KIT CAR ANNUAL 1983, KIT CAR MONTHLY Jan. 1983, KIT CAR QUARTERLY Jan-Mar. 1983, and many more.)
At that time there were also Lafer MP's, Puma, Avallones, Ventura's, Glaspac cobra's and others being made and represented by GCE as well. In fact in 1980 I was aware of 17 different small companies making special cars in Sao Paulo. (From MG-TD's to a copy of the Fiat X1/9, by Dardo - believe it or not!)
The S-90 molds were sold to CBP (Capacetes Braziliero Perfeito) in the later 80's, he made some, but the quality was not good, and only one or two to my knowledge were imported. Joao Perfeito was shot and killed in a robbery attempt later the same year.
The molds were moved into storage, and later we retreived them for use at Chamonix, making a very few kits in the early 1990's, all Cabriolets. These were marked by Blue Ray GT Engineering of Houston, TX. (see article EUROPEAN CAR MAGAZINE 1993).
Chuck Beck and I met because of the ENVEMO car, back in the early 1980's, at a kit show in Vegas, and again at the L.A. Car Show, He with the Spyder and GCE with the ENVEMO. The possibilities of working together in Brazil were discussed, and later sparked a partnership that brought him to Brazil in 1985. We enjoyed a close partnership and business relationship (spanning many products, from Porsche replicas to stepside truck beds for the Dodge truck, circa 1995 called the Ramside to name a few).
Chuck retired from the kit business in 2001 or so, and we both spent some time in the employ of Avanti Motor Corporation in Georgia.
So, while he was not the father of the ENVEMO, Chuck has had more influence on manufacture of kits in Brazil than just about anyone else around. We managed to have some great times as well.
Recently an ENVEMO coupe sold in the low 20K range. ENVEMO cabs are rarer. While body molds still exist, this is the easy part. It is the 500 trim parts (window surrounds, vent windows, sill trim, on and on.... that make these later Porsches much more costly. Time and tooling.
Luis Fernando and his dad looked at this as a "labor of love." They did a fabulous job and I regret not keeping one cab for myself.
I present this little history story in memory of our friend Luis Fernando Concalves, murdered in 2003, in Sao Paulo, while doing what he loved - working on Porsche cars.
Thanks for reading this. Enjoy your cars.
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-=theron
I just realized that Envemo isn't listed in the makers section. I will add them soon.
Kevin Hines originally posted this about Envemo
---
The company that made the 1964 356C reproductions (about 250 units made for the world) was called ENVEMO S-90 (ENgineering of VEhicles and MOtors). It was founded in 1981 by Luis Fernando Concalves and his father. Made mostly coupes, then some cabs as well.
One of the most faithful reproductions ever done. Luis was a personal friend, and we brought about 45 "kits" total to the USA, sold by GCE Import/Export in Louisiana, then later moved operation to Texas. (See KIT CAR ANNUAL 1983, KIT CAR MONTHLY Jan. 1983, KIT CAR QUARTERLY Jan-Mar. 1983, and many more.)
At that time there were also Lafer MP's, Puma, Avallones, Ventura's, Glaspac cobra's and others being made and represented by GCE as well. In fact in 1980 I was aware of 17 different small companies making special cars in Sao Paulo. (From MG-TD's to a copy of the Fiat X1/9, by Dardo - believe it or not!)
The S-90 molds were sold to CBP (Capacetes Braziliero Perfeito) in the later 80's, he made some, but the quality was not good, and only one or two to my knowledge were imported. Joao Perfeito was shot and killed in a robbery attempt later the same year.
The molds were moved into storage, and later we retreived them for use at Chamonix, making a very few kits in the early 1990's, all Cabriolets. These were marked by Blue Ray GT Engineering of Houston, TX. (see article EUROPEAN CAR MAGAZINE 1993).
Chuck Beck and I met because of the ENVEMO car, back in the early 1980's, at a kit show in Vegas, and again at the L.A. Car Show, He with the Spyder and GCE with the ENVEMO. The possibilities of working together in Brazil were discussed, and later sparked a partnership that brought him to Brazil in 1985. We enjoyed a close partnership and business relationship (spanning many products, from Porsche replicas to stepside truck beds for the Dodge truck, circa 1995 called the Ramside to name a few).
Chuck retired from the kit business in 2001 or so, and we both spent some time in the employ of Avanti Motor Corporation in Georgia.
So, while he was not the father of the ENVEMO, Chuck has had more influence on manufacture of kits in Brazil than just about anyone else around. We managed to have some great times as well.
Recently an ENVEMO coupe sold in the low 20K range. ENVEMO cabs are rarer. While body molds still exist, this is the easy part. It is the 500 trim parts (window surrounds, vent windows, sill trim, on and on.... that make these later Porsches much more costly. Time and tooling.
Luis Fernando and his dad looked at this as a "labor of love." They did a fabulous job and I regret not keeping one cab for myself.
I present this little history story in memory of our friend Luis Fernando Concalves, murdered in 2003, in Sao Paulo, while doing what he loved - working on Porsche cars.
Thanks for reading this. Enjoy your cars.
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-=theron
There are 2 Envemo owners listed
https://www.speedsterowners.com/registry/response.asp?user=pcelenta
https://www.speedsterowners.com/registry/response.asp?user=MitchellP
But Herb also owns one, He just has his Intermeccanica listed because the registry only allows one car listing per person.
https://www.speedsterowners.com/registry/response.asp?user=kruttschnitt
-=theron
https://www.speedsterowners.com/registry/response.asp?user=pcelenta
https://www.speedsterowners.com/registry/response.asp?user=MitchellP
But Herb also owns one, He just has his Intermeccanica listed because the registry only allows one car listing per person.
https://www.speedsterowners.com/registry/response.asp?user=kruttschnitt
-=theron
Thanks Theron. It was Mitch that showed up at Carlisle and he was justifiably proud of his Cabriolet, one real nice automobile.
Hi again! I do undertand a litlle bit of Portugues as i do of englist and I can tell you it's so funny to see how the 356 cabriolet owner discus with the other guys.
I don't want to buy an old Car What I realy want is to build a Speedter my self but I can't find anyone in argentina selling Kits I did find a Brazilian maker ( For the list www.replicar.com.br)that told me they can sell me both, either the vw based Kit or the vw basde TurnKey. I don't have the price for the Kit yet but I think that may be is like US$ 2500(CIF). Here I can get a 1969/70 VW beattle in very good shape for U$S 2500. With this little information whath would you advise me.(sorry but my english is basic)
Thanks a lot and ...... Theron i'm sure i'll keep on bothering you as it looks like you are the Speedster GURU.
Thanks again
I don't want to buy an old Car What I realy want is to build a Speedter my self but I can't find anyone in argentina selling Kits I did find a Brazilian maker ( For the list www.replicar.com.br)that told me they can sell me both, either the vw based Kit or the vw basde TurnKey. I don't have the price for the Kit yet but I think that may be is like US$ 2500(CIF). Here I can get a 1969/70 VW beattle in very good shape for U$S 2500. With this little information whath would you advise me.(sorry but my english is basic)
Thanks a lot and ...... Theron i'm sure i'll keep on bothering you as it looks like you are the Speedster GURU.
Thanks again
Theron may be it's time four you to have a Cab. This one seems to be very good and for what I've been reading is a very good price US$ 13800.
JH! thanks for yor help and future advises..
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