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Sorry, my original message posted before I could fill it in.
Does anyone know anything about these Brazilian built Porsche replicas - looks like a Roadster version (1960)? I know that it has some past relationship with Beck, and beck/ Special Editions now owns the old molds, some parts , etc...
Anyone know what one is worth? Made in the 80's, good condition, 1600cc but possibly a souped up version.
Does anyone know anything about these Brazilian built Porsche replicas - looks like a Roadster version (1960)? I know that it has some past relationship with Beck, and beck/ Special Editions now owns the old molds, some parts , etc...
Anyone know what one is worth? Made in the 80's, good condition, 1600cc but possibly a souped up version.
Do a search on the Forum as it was covered about a month ago --- take a look athe the one at www.speedsterowners.com/files/thmblist.asp?sf=/kruttschnitt
The company that made the 1964 356C reproductions (about 250 units made for the world) was called ENVEMO S-90 (ENgineering of VEhicles and MOtors). It was founded in 1981 by Luis Fernando Concalves and his father. Made mostly coupes, then some cabs as well.
One of the most faithful reproductions ever done. Luis was a personal friend, and we brought about 45 "kits" total to the USA, sold by GCE Import/Export in Louisiana, then later moved operation to Texas. (See KIT CAR ANNUAL 1983, KIT CAR MONTHLY Jan. 1983, KIT CAR QUARTERLY Jan-Mar. 1983, and many more.)
At that time there were also Lafer MP's, Puma, Avallones, Ventura's, Glaspac cobra's and others being made and represented by GCE as well. In fact in 1980 I was aware of 17 different small companies making special cars in Sao Paulo. (From MG-TD's to a copy of the Fiat X1/9, by Dardo - believe it or not!)
The S-90 molds were sold to CBP (Capacetes Braziliero Perfeito) in the later 80's, he made some, but the quality was not good, and only one or two to my knowledge were imported. Joao Perfeito was shot and killed in a robbery attempt later the same year.
The molds were moved into storage, and later we retreived them for use at Chamonix, making a very few kits in the early 1990's, all Cabriolets. These were marked by Blue Ray GT Engineering of Houston, TX. (see article EUROPEAN CAR MAGAZINE 1993).
Chuck Beck and I met because of the ENVEMO car, back in the early 1980's, at a kit show in Vegas, and again at the L.A. Car Show, He with the Spyder and GCE with the ENVEMO. The possibilities of working together in Brazil were discussed, and later sparked a partnership that brought him to Brazil in 1985. We enjoyed a close partnership and business relationship (spanning many products, from Porsche replicas to stepside truck beds for the Dodge truck, circa 1995 called the Ramside to name a few).
Chuck retired from the kit business in 2001 or so, and we both spent some time in the employ of Avanti Motor Corporation in Georgia.
So, while he was not the father of the ENVEMO, Chuck has had more influence on manufacture of kits in Brazil than just about anyone else around. We managed to have some great times as well.
Recently an ENVEMO coupe sold in the low 20K range. ENVEMO cabs are rarer. While body molds still exist, this is the easy part. It is the 500 trim parts (window surrounds, vent windows, sill trim, on and on.... that make these later Porsches much more costly. Time and tooling.
Luis Fernando and his dad looked at this as a "labor of love." They did a fabulous job and I regret not keeping one cab for myself.
I present this little history story in memory of our friend Luis Fernando Concalves, murdered in 2003, in Sao Paulo, while doing what he loved - working on Porsche cars.
Thanks for reading this. Enjoy your cars.
One of the most faithful reproductions ever done. Luis was a personal friend, and we brought about 45 "kits" total to the USA, sold by GCE Import/Export in Louisiana, then later moved operation to Texas. (See KIT CAR ANNUAL 1983, KIT CAR MONTHLY Jan. 1983, KIT CAR QUARTERLY Jan-Mar. 1983, and many more.)
At that time there were also Lafer MP's, Puma, Avallones, Ventura's, Glaspac cobra's and others being made and represented by GCE as well. In fact in 1980 I was aware of 17 different small companies making special cars in Sao Paulo. (From MG-TD's to a copy of the Fiat X1/9, by Dardo - believe it or not!)
The S-90 molds were sold to CBP (Capacetes Braziliero Perfeito) in the later 80's, he made some, but the quality was not good, and only one or two to my knowledge were imported. Joao Perfeito was shot and killed in a robbery attempt later the same year.
The molds were moved into storage, and later we retreived them for use at Chamonix, making a very few kits in the early 1990's, all Cabriolets. These were marked by Blue Ray GT Engineering of Houston, TX. (see article EUROPEAN CAR MAGAZINE 1993).
Chuck Beck and I met because of the ENVEMO car, back in the early 1980's, at a kit show in Vegas, and again at the L.A. Car Show, He with the Spyder and GCE with the ENVEMO. The possibilities of working together in Brazil were discussed, and later sparked a partnership that brought him to Brazil in 1985. We enjoyed a close partnership and business relationship (spanning many products, from Porsche replicas to stepside truck beds for the Dodge truck, circa 1995 called the Ramside to name a few).
Chuck retired from the kit business in 2001 or so, and we both spent some time in the employ of Avanti Motor Corporation in Georgia.
So, while he was not the father of the ENVEMO, Chuck has had more influence on manufacture of kits in Brazil than just about anyone else around. We managed to have some great times as well.
Recently an ENVEMO coupe sold in the low 20K range. ENVEMO cabs are rarer. While body molds still exist, this is the easy part. It is the 500 trim parts (window surrounds, vent windows, sill trim, on and on.... that make these later Porsches much more costly. Time and tooling.
Luis Fernando and his dad looked at this as a "labor of love." They did a fabulous job and I regret not keeping one cab for myself.
I present this little history story in memory of our friend Luis Fernando Concalves, murdered in 2003, in Sao Paulo, while doing what he loved - working on Porsche cars.
Thanks for reading this. Enjoy your cars.
Thanx, Kevin(I assume kin of Carey) for that interesting post. Sure sounds like Sao Paulo is a rough place!
BD
BD
there was one for sale in my city for 20k looked like new on the picture this is the same guy that was selling it
www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=138421
www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=138421
20K is about the going price. I am seriously thinking about selling mine. Built in '86, about 16,000 miles, excellent condition, check the profile for photos. Any interest? See 'classified' for details.
Steve, I looked at your post, RE: the Samba, but it took me to a drop spindle? Any help?
Tried an ENVEMO search, but to no avail.
Just curious as to what is out there. Might want to trade a Speedster or my Spyder, less engine, for one Envemo, if I could find the right one.
Had a personal coupe, Ice Green Metalic (very light green) that I loved. sold it in houston. Also had a cream cabriolet, which my son (Carey) drove to his senior prom.
Back in the mid '80's it was hard to sell these, as originals were relatively inexpensive. Now it may be a different story. the coupe would be my choice for re-tooling, but the expense (both in time and $$$) is more than one might think.
Back in my most active times in Brazil I spent an average of over 280 days per year in Sao Paulo. Working with VW do Brasil, and their suppliers to make all of the tiny little parts that made these cars what they were.
I really loved the coupes because of the shear rarity of a coupe replica back then, and the solid, Porsche-like ride.
I still have bits and pieces for the ENVEMO's. Gas tank senders, emblems, side windows, guages, sunroof frames, and a few other parts boxed away from my old parts inventory.
Same for PUMA, Lafer, etc.
This is my first foray onto this site. Sorry if I babble on a bit.
Kevin
Tried an ENVEMO search, but to no avail.
Just curious as to what is out there. Might want to trade a Speedster or my Spyder, less engine, for one Envemo, if I could find the right one.
Had a personal coupe, Ice Green Metalic (very light green) that I loved. sold it in houston. Also had a cream cabriolet, which my son (Carey) drove to his senior prom.
Back in the mid '80's it was hard to sell these, as originals were relatively inexpensive. Now it may be a different story. the coupe would be my choice for re-tooling, but the expense (both in time and $$$) is more than one might think.
Back in my most active times in Brazil I spent an average of over 280 days per year in Sao Paulo. Working with VW do Brasil, and their suppliers to make all of the tiny little parts that made these cars what they were.
I really loved the coupes because of the shear rarity of a coupe replica back then, and the solid, Porsche-like ride.
I still have bits and pieces for the ENVEMO's. Gas tank senders, emblems, side windows, guages, sunroof frames, and a few other parts boxed away from my old parts inventory.
Same for PUMA, Lafer, etc.
This is my first foray onto this site. Sorry if I babble on a bit.
Kevin
yes the dropspindle post is correct, the seller of the drop spindle is selling the envemo car aswell, I posted as reference so you could e-mail him from there
Kevin, the thread just below this one is on the 904 replica, I wonder if you would like to comment on it? I understand you were involved with this project too.
Eddie
Eddie
Envemo's have been a topic of conversation on the 356 registry site - here's a coupe for sale:
cgi.befr.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9897&item=4523967944&rd=1&tc=photo
Also, another guy is offering a C cabriolet envemo for $24K - located in the mid-west apparently.
No affiliation
cgi.befr.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9897&item=4523967944&rd=1&tc=photo
Also, another guy is offering a C cabriolet envemo for $24K - located in the mid-west apparently.
No affiliation
Kevin, I really enjoyed reading your post. I have a 1983 Cab. Envemo and must say I love it. I have been tring to find out more about these cas and someone suggesed this site.
This is my first post here and hope you can shed some more light on these for me.
I need to know about the floor pans, since mine is a little worse for wear. Can they be purchased? Also the trans. what year and model?
Love to drive this thing, but live in Canada so only about 6 months a year are drivable. the rest of the time is for dreaming.
I look forward to any more info you or anyone else can give.
Thanks
Larry
from the near north
This is my first post here and hope you can shed some more light on these for me.
I need to know about the floor pans, since mine is a little worse for wear. Can they be purchased? Also the trans. what year and model?
Love to drive this thing, but live in Canada so only about 6 months a year are drivable. the rest of the time is for dreaming.
I look forward to any more info you or anyone else can give.
Thanks
Larry
from the near north