Exhaust

Anyone tried this? Does it clear the rear apron?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VW-speedster-porsche-bus-tri-mill-turbo-exhaust-new_W0QQitemZ7991187792QQcategoryZ33636QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I believe the Tri-Mill variety does NOT fit our speedsters, but Kirk at Vintage has one that is almost Identical to it that WILL fit....

Ben,
I tried an EMPI exhaust system with dual tips that looks very much like the eBay system your link shows. The tips were too close to the apron -- they nearly touched it -- so I returned it for an EMPI single tip exhaust that has a chrome tip the that exits under the rear apron on the starboard side with about two inches of clearance. It looks and sounds terrific!
Got mine at Archway Import Auto Parts, in south Saint Louis County. The owner, Jim, and his countermen - Duke and Lester - are all VW air cooled experts and they are very helpful. They cater to original Bug, dune buggy, sand rail and replica owners. PM me for contact info.
Jim
prospyder

See photos. The exhaust tip is hardly noticeable in the first shot. It's more evident in the other.

Vince; I just checked the description of the Ebay item and it does say it fits Speedster replicas. That is very much a crapshoot; my friend Jjr has a CMC and he ordered a muffler from Kirk but it didn't fit. It seems the CMCs have a lower rear apron as compared to our VSs. Kirk told us the muffler he sold him was not a Tri-Mil but yet the muffler came in a Tri-Mil box....go figure.

Another SOC member (can't remember his name) bought a tri-mill
variety and it didn't fit, I ended up taking it off his hands
and put it on my Ghia, fit perfectly, ended up getting him one of Kirks, which did fit his speedster.....
I also think the same people made both, but they are different...
could explain the same box, perhaps.....
I'm lucky to be close to Kirk when I need something, cause I don't like to experiment like some of the other SOC members, I prefer to be able to jump in, drive 3 or 4 hundred miles and not worry about my car falling apart.....

I have one of Kirk's exhaust systems that looks like the one that Ben has mentioned. It is made in Mexico. The body on my '79 IM seems to sit lower than most, so I was pleased that this exhaust cleared the apron, barely. The exhaust tips are kind of short and will have to be extended when the bumper goes back on.


Chuck

Thanks Guys,
I guess I will be giving Kirk a call. I just ordered a hood handle and some other stuff. Guess I should have ordered the exhaust as well.

Ben...don't!! Kirk's Tri-Mil won't fit a CMC; that's what I told Vince in my earlier post. CMC's have a lower rear apron than VS's...

Chuck's exhaust system is the one I have. It's the VW Mexico/EMPI variety and as Chuck says it almost touches the rear apron on a VS.

This trouble is still haunting me, and I see others in the same boat. Will a dual QP with merged header fit inside the rear apron of a CMC? Any exhaust system suggestions? What about those "Euro tuck exhausts?
http://www.800luvbugg.com/-/shop?category=2.18
Which of these have been tried and fit the CMC speedster? Anyone?

JJ,
I had a Euro-Tuck on my old engine. See picture in my file Daves D right side.
Although this was on an IM - it might give you some idea of the fit.

Please note, these are small systems - 1 3/8" as I recall.

If you're running anything larger than a 1776, I'd look for something else.

Dave

A 1 3/8 exhaust is too small for a 1776? What are you basing that on?

Ron, I said larger than a 1776.

So much for starting a flame war on this thread....

Thanks David D for the comment, very much appreciated. I have a 1776cc engine with a better than mild cam. Im hoping to get something not too restrictive. Is that euro-tuck system noisy? Thats my second concern besides not having to cut the body. Guess Im leaning towards that solution...

JJ,
That system wasn't as loud as some systems I've heard, but it is much louder than a stock exhaust.
One of the nice things about the Euro-Tuck system is it's easily modified - you could put larger glass pack mufflers on, and you could also bend the exhaust tips around, so you don't have to cut you body.

Im looking at the pix of that system and think it will also help with the lowered end issues, guess thats the way to go...

I thin there is lots of variation on these header kits. I had one from Chirco (probably an Empi that was too high to clear the rear apron and it exited slight off center from the car. I sent it back and bought another brand to mate to my Stinger and it exits just under the apron dead center of the car. Each brand is different.

Tony

Hi Vince that was me! The standard tri mill the tubes are not long enough to let the system fit under the speedster body. Thanks to Vince problem solved! Thanks brother!
Jerry White

I just bolted on an exhaust from A1 muffler and it is fantastic! I know it is talked about a lot on this forum, but I don't see any reason to buy from anyone else. It fits perfectly, even with my huge rear tires. You cannot see it from behind the car and my car is "on the ground" and it does not scrape over big speedbumps, steep drives or potholes (all of which I encountered today on my way to work).
Talk to Tiger up there and be happy!

The Hide Away works great bolts right up to a speedster including the support bracket that lines up witht he 2 x 2 framework of the speedster without any mods !

http://www.800luvbugg.com/-/shop?category=2.18

Will see if there is something with the best of all worlds... merged, inch and a half diameter, that will fit without cutting the body and clear the engine tin, ceramic coated, quiet sounding and good looks/performance. Thanks for the comments guys, very much appreciated.

Has anyone used something like this:
http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=384
Is merged, 1

I am using the twin muffler system on the speedster that is now on ebay, it has a nice exhaust note to it without being too noisey...you can check the look in the photo's

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4575215895&sspagename=ADME%3AL%3ADS%3AMT%3A8

As I mentioned in a previous post the Hide-Away system is my first choice as it is about $130 and fits a speedter w/o alterations ..as an added plus you can easily change out the muffler to Flowmaster 40 (loud but throaty) or whatever you may choose.

Wow Alan it is great! I thought you would have kept that car for a while longer... I get attached to things but you easily change, I wonder how you do it? Anyhow, what is the Vintage Speedster

Thank you for the kudos I did quite a bit to bring that speedster back to where it was when assembled 13 years ago by the previous owner as a show car.
At one timeI did have attachments to things ('57 Chevy and then a '53 Corvette) but I also like the variety as it is the true spice of life, lucky my wife is still around ....." Just kidd'in dear!"

Best to talk direct with Kirk at VS as I have yet to use one of his exhausts