I'd drive it as is, too. I think it has a nice patina....kinda like an old comfy pair of tennis shoes.
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WOW!,
I'd drive it as is, too. I think it has a nice patina....kinda like an old comfy pair of tennis shoes.
I'd drive it as is, too. I think it has a nice patina....kinda like an old comfy pair of tennis shoes.
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WOW!,
I'd drive it as is, too. I think it has a nice patina....kinda like an old comfy pair of tennis shoes.
I'd drive it as is, too. I think it has a nice patina....kinda like an old comfy pair of tennis shoes.
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Looks like it'll need at least that in work, but I'd drive it as-is:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-356-1958-Porsche-Speedster-356A-Porsche-356-356-speedster_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6428QQihZ007QQitemZ170034345631QQrdZ1
Standard disclaimer, yadda, yadda, yadda. Don't know that guy, et cetera ...
While I'm at it, someone wanted a shift lever? Fifty bucks:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-356-T5B-Shifter_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ34208QQihZ013QQitemZ230033933285QQrdZ1
Maybe a complete 356 engine for a thousand bucks?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-356-complete-engine_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33615QQihZ007QQitemZ170034516534QQrdZ1
Tail light chrome bits for five bucks?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-356-Tail-Light-Frames_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ42606QQihZ007QQitemZ170035735352QQrdZ1
Some door handles (exterior) without keys -- fifteen bucks:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1962-Porsche-outer-door-handles-356_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ10076QQihZ008QQitemZ180033662659QQrdZ1
AND, adding color ... a GAS HEATER! One HUNDRED bucks ... (Where the nor'easters at? If one of you folks in colder climes don't want this guy, let me know and I'll buy the sumbitch):
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-356-B-or-C-or-VW-Volkswagen-BN2-Gas-Heater_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ34198QQihZ013QQitemZ230034066161QQrdZ1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-356-1958-Porsche-Speedster-356A-Porsche-356-356-speedster_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6428QQihZ007QQitemZ170034345631QQrdZ1
Standard disclaimer, yadda, yadda, yadda. Don't know that guy, et cetera ...
While I'm at it, someone wanted a shift lever? Fifty bucks:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-356-T5B-Shifter_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ34208QQihZ013QQitemZ230033933285QQrdZ1
Maybe a complete 356 engine for a thousand bucks?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-356-complete-engine_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33615QQihZ007QQitemZ170034516534QQrdZ1
Tail light chrome bits for five bucks?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-356-Tail-Light-Frames_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ42606QQihZ007QQitemZ170035735352QQrdZ1
Some door handles (exterior) without keys -- fifteen bucks:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1962-Porsche-outer-door-handles-356_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ10076QQihZ008QQitemZ180033662659QQrdZ1
AND, adding color ... a GAS HEATER! One HUNDRED bucks ... (Where the nor'easters at? If one of you folks in colder climes don't want this guy, let me know and I'll buy the sumbitch):
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-356-B-or-C-or-VW-Volkswagen-BN2-Gas-Heater_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ34198QQihZ013QQitemZ230034066161QQrdZ1
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I agree with Luke. Drive it like it is smug with the knowledge that even if I keep on driving it, every day it gets WORTH MORE!!!
For the vintage, the rust is just not bad at all on this car. Love the original interior! angela
For the vintage, the rust is just not bad at all on this car. Love the original interior! angela
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I love the Oxblood color. I also like that that car looks like it just got done running a sprint and has just paused at the curb to catch its breath.
(Sidebar -- If anyone out there has any old Oxblood leather or naughahide, I'll pay good money for it. The older and more seasoned, the better. I want to make an engine cover out of it, but I don't want it to be new in appearance.)
(Sidebar -- If anyone out there has any old Oxblood leather or naughahide, I'll pay good money for it. The older and more seasoned, the better. I want to make an engine cover out of it, but I don't want it to be new in appearance.)
I hate to break anyone's bubble, but this car's reserve has not been met, and my guess is that the reserve is a lot past 40 LARGE....
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Definitely; just wair for a few more hours and see the price go up astronomically....nice car!
My guess will be between 60-80 large
Old school is my favorite when it's comes to these cars. I love the look of Butch. Replica or original I love them when they look like they've been around awhile.
But it's GOT to be around $40K. I keep hearing how I could have got an original for what I paid for my car.....
I'm with Lambros- $60K-80K, and it'll need twice that to be as nice as a $20K Vintage. Yeah, it's got a cool patina... It also has no top, and "the usual rust".
Drive it?!? Why would you? As Angela pointed out-- they are getting more valuable every day. Does anybody want to risk getting tagged in an original speedster? Even if you could avoid it, I can assure you that driving it would mean it would be getting "usually rustier".
I'm with Lambros- $60K-80K, and it'll need twice that to be as nice as a $20K Vintage. Yeah, it's got a cool patina... It also has no top, and "the usual rust".
Drive it?!? Why would you? As Angela pointed out-- they are getting more valuable every day. Does anybody want to risk getting tagged in an original speedster? Even if you could avoid it, I can assure you that driving it would mean it would be getting "usually rustier".
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Stan, I'd probably do it for the novelty. As stupid as that sounds, I like tooling around in rustbuckets from time to time. At least that one's got character, eh?
I'm not disagreeing that the car's got that "sumphin' sumpthin'" goin' on.... I'm just sayin'-- actually DRIVING the car would be a bit like shoveling money into the fireplace. Even if Mrs. Bluehair doesn't rear end me, I could never escape the fact that rust never sleeps (except in California, and I don't live there). There's not a lot of tangible return on investment in keeping a rusty car parked in the garage.
Original speedsters have rounded the bend into legend. I can't drive, modify, or really enjoy a legend the way I can do all three with my entirely replaceable replica.
You want a really cool car with patina, and enough power to keep anybody entertained for any length of time? Paul has Butch on the auction block. Why would anybody want anything else?
Original speedsters have rounded the bend into legend. I can't drive, modify, or really enjoy a legend the way I can do all three with my entirely replaceable replica.
You want a really cool car with patina, and enough power to keep anybody entertained for any length of time? Paul has Butch on the auction block. Why would anybody want anything else?
I've got a buddy that retores vintage cars, Porsches, Lotus, etc... He has a 58 Lotus Elite, 58 Speedster, Lotus 7, and two 356 Coupes. He drives them on a fairly regular basis. Whenever he's out in one he'll stop by my restaurant so I can go out and drool. That said, he appreciates my replica and my situation, which is not having the resources and facilities to maintain an original. I've told him I could never own an original for fear something would happen to it and I couldn't live with myself knowing I was responsible for removing another part of history. Stan is right - They are essentially legends now.
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Damn good point, Stan.
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Over 50K, reserve not yet met. angela
4 hours left,$65,100.00
so, what was the final bid? and did it meet the reserve?
nevermind, I see its not over yet
nevermind, I see its not over yet
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21 minutes to go and still stuck at $65,100.
The argument shouldn't be wether the replicas are better for daily driving (they don't rust). The argument should be why people routinely pay $60-$90 for new cars that also rust.....and they don't even pay for it. They finance it. THAT is shoveling money into a fireplace!
The argument shouldn't be wether the replicas are better for daily driving (they don't rust). The argument should be why people routinely pay $60-$90 for new cars that also rust.....and they don't even pay for it. They finance it. THAT is shoveling money into a fireplace!
I am as critical of people burning money as anyone, but that is because I have so little of it.....My toys are few and inexpensive, but it appears that there are many out there (and on this site) who have money to burn, it used to bother me, especially regarding our replica's, but I have learned differently from being a part of this SOC community, and I now say, more power to them.....
I wish I was one of them......
by the way, the real deal got to 72K without the reserve being met..
I wish I was one of them......
by the way, the real deal got to 72K without the reserve being met..
Well.... there's always "European Collectibles". They've got a couple of REALLY nice "A" speedsters (a '57 and a '58) both tucking in nicely at just under $150K. That's for 1600 cars-- not Carreras.
That's right-- a legend could be yours, for about the price of the really nice house I just sold here in small town USA (hoza' bout THEM apples, west coast guys). Perhaps you could get the guy down at the bank to loan you the money on a 15 year mortgage, if you put 20% down (just trade two of your Vintages or perhaps your new Corvette)... but only if you persuaded him that you plan to live in the car.
And it would be true-- you would be living in the car, or more realistically, UNDER the car (rust never sleeps, you know...).
That's right-- a legend could be yours, for about the price of the really nice house I just sold here in small town USA (hoza' bout THEM apples, west coast guys). Perhaps you could get the guy down at the bank to loan you the money on a 15 year mortgage, if you put 20% down (just trade two of your Vintages or perhaps your new Corvette)... but only if you persuaded him that you plan to live in the car.
And it would be true-- you would be living in the car, or more realistically, UNDER the car (rust never sleeps, you know...).
Legends that just sounds sooo cool, do people look at you when your driving and think James Dean ( outlaw-speed-rich-LEGEND )???? L8 Cabanaboy wondering
Call it a hunch, but I think the old 'Supply & Demand' thing is unversally applicable - Demand exceeds Supply = Higher prices and conversely Supply exceeds Demand = Lower prices (cars, homes/locality, gold, oil, etc.).