fan shroud

what motor did vw make and what did they put it in with the boxey looking fan shroud, not the half round one like type 1. thanks bill

There were basically 2 engines with "flat air flow"
The first was the Type 3 engine
Started life as a 1500 and graduated to 1,600. Found in notch back's, fast back's and square backs.



Next came the VW 411/412, The Type II VW bus and the Porsche Type IV engines. All were very similar with displacements from 1,700 to 2,000 cc's

I believe you may be looking for a Brazilian or Mexican shroud, if you are looking for an upright fan mounting.....There are after market versions of these, but quality is all over the place.....

Hope this helps....

William, I believe your question went to the shape of the upright fan shroud. The early 36 hp motor used the round shape. Later, VW had the more square shape to the shroud. I don't know what year they changed the shape, but my '60 VW has has the stock 36 hp motor and thus the round shaped shroud. My '67 VW uses the more square shaped shroud. With the 1600 dual port motors, the "dog house" cooler was added to the back side to allow better cooling of the oil.(By back side, I refer to it being between the shroud and the firewall.) I suspect all the motors after 1961, when the 40 hp motor was introduced, used the "square" shaped shroud. The round shrouds that you see used in speedsters is an aftermarket piece available from any VW parts supplier.

Your question "excluded" type 1 engines specifically, "not the half round one like type 1" but, apparently I'm wrong in assuming you were asking about flat engine air shrouds so, maybe this will help:

http://www.offroadvw.net/tech/brad/fanshroudtech.htm

Weren't the Thing shrouds different as well?

Yup - the Thing has a flat square shroud. They are fairly rare and hence costly. Most don't have the heater hous outlets as the vast majority of 181/Things had a BN4 Eberspacher gas heater.

Something like this?

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=760915

Maybe?


FP

Mr. Forum P.-I believe that (Samba link pic) is from an earlier bus shroud. The type 181 "Thing" shroud did not have the air "snorkels". Also last production Thing shrouds had a larger dog-house. (I think this one is somewhat hard to find.)

Oh, I know . . . just figured that the original question was about low flat fan shroud. With a THING shroud useless in a Speedster 'cause of the air outlet issue,
I thought that this might make a good alternative.

I might go for it myself if nobody else needs it. The extra room at the top would make a high mounted oil breather much easier,
and that's a concern right now due to the stroker crank/high internal pressure currently going on with the engine.

FP

Mr. Forum P-I was also somewhat perplexed by the original post. I'm sure you could make this work as you're pretty resourceful. And also the German tin is better quality.

"And also the German tin is better quality."

Wow, isn't though !?!? It's always a surprise just how terrible the aftermarket pieces are.

Yeah but we have to help the economy of 3rd world nations - and keep them polluting the atmosphere.