Fern has new discs

This is the same kit that I put on the Ghia last year with no issues. Today was the first day that I brought the car outside for a test drive. There is a tie rod that needs to be adjusted. The wheels are toed out a bit.

The problem is two-fold. One of the discs grind when I turn the wheel. The other is that the passenger wheel bearing gets loose after about 100Metres. The bearings are tight, are they too tight that it unscrews the lock bolt ?(split bolt with lock nut) Oh and I changed the shocks for oil (softer) shocks and Fern has torsion bar.

I think I'll be taking it up the street on Monday to the garage to have them adjust the tie-rod (it is in nice and tight) and check out the wheel bearing issue. Weird thing though I installed the same kit in the Ghia and it's awesome.

But if there are any ideas I would love to hear them.

I'd wager it's the passenger side that's grinding too. Does this one bolt up to the original spindles? Something's moving that shouldn't be, check the bearings' fit on the spindle separately. It's not going on all the way-I don't see how the bolt could be loosening if it has the "keeper" on.

Huh?

Mike wrote:"One of the discs grind when I turn the wheel."
That usually means one of two things: (1.) that the bearings are really loose (or not fully seated) on that hub, allowing the disk rotor to move around when spinning and touch the caliper or some other stationary metal part. You might want to check that side to see if the bearings are tight enough. or (2.) That the rotor on that side is somewhat coarsely ground and is simply making a lot of noise until the pad and rotor are worn in together. This is rare, but possible and should correct itself in a few miles. I'd put my centavos on numero uno......

Mike went on to write:"The other is that the passenger wheel bearing gets loose after about 100Metres. The bearings are tight, are they too tight that it unscrews the lock bolt ?(split bolt with lock nut)"

Is that nut what's commonly called a "Castle Nut"? It looks like a tiny castle when set on it's bottom? If so, it may not be adequatly clamping against the threaded shaft and is loosening up. Often, too, those castle nuts are expecting to be tightened to torque (or "bearing slip", if by hand), and then a cotter pin is run between the nut's castle parapets (technical term there), through a hole in the spindle shaft and then through the other side of the castle to keep it from moving, ESPECIALLY on the passenger side where the tendency is to tighten by the wheel spinning, as opposed to the drivers side which generally loosens with wheel spinning. Yours sounds opposite to that, so I'm not sure WHAT's going on.....

Hope this gets you to thinkin........

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Yeah got me thinking alright. The wheel bearings were loose over the 2 weeks it's been sitting so I did tighten them up, On the new spindles there is a nylon bearing cup followed by the bearing pressed into the disc with a bearing race pressed on that. I pressed them myself with hammer and cold chisel. (this could be the problem) Not pressed enough. But again I did the Ghia this way last year.

I tighten the wheel bearings with the nut (not castle nut but split nut with a bolt through it) I tighten then back off a bit to get rotation. So all of that seems to be OK.

It is either that having the wheel a bit toe out is not helping the bearing or that I need to really crank the bearing and then back off a bit to make sure everything is in all the way. I will go out to the garage on Monday and if it's not raining tomorrow I will try this again.

On a happy note she started up like a champ and all the neighbours now know that Fern is out....YAHOOOOoooo

A hammer and cold chisel are not the correct tools regardless of what you may have read in Muir's book.

Take the hubs to a shop and have them press the bearings in with a properly sized arbor.

Not sure about the nylon/plastic cups; never had anything like that on any of my setups.

Make sure you have the right parts; there is one kit for dropped spindles and a different one for stock spindles.

Well took it all of again and it seems that there is a need for another large washer. The kit has new spindles that come with it. But regardless of how tight I tighten the nut there is still a little play in the wheel bearing. They are new as well (inside and outside). Installing them was easy enough. I think that it looks as if the spindles need an inside back plate to stop the bearing from 'riding' up the spindle. I will drive it to the IRVING station up the road from my sleepy community and have them check it tomorrow. Funny though the passenger side is worse than the drivers side.

At the same time I will get an oil change (all 7 quarts of it)

Rain-Rain go away......had so much a Mallard landed in the backyard and was swimming in the swamp.

Thanks all.

I did a 5-lug conversion on my 914 about 2 years ago. Bought the parts from an individual and had to remove the very piece you're referring to from my old spindles. It didn't look like it was removeable until I thumped it, hammer and cold chisel did the trick.

Check the threads inside the nut. Could be stripped a bit.
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Sorry, I removed the piece from an extra 911 strut assembly that I found somewhere-it fit inside the inner grease seal if I remember correctly.

Mike: I think there are different sized wheel bearings, an early and a late. You may have them mixed up.

No bearings should be OK, they came with the kit for the new spindles. Looks like there is a backing plate needed on this particular car. Not sure why though since it is the same kit as the Ghia no issues at all.

The problem I have is that the lock nut goes to the end of the threads and it is still not tight enough. In fact I can tun it to the MAX and use a rubber hammer to get some more thread and I can still turn the wheels. Which means something ain't right.

STUPID-STUPID-STUPID....It looks like I put the bearing races over the bearing and not in the new hubs (discs). I tried now to take the discs off the spindles and they are not coming off, with any of my tools anyway. I think this is the problem.

So that means that me (if I can figure out how to take the discs off) or the garage will need to pull the new races off to pop the bearings and put them back in, then drop the bearings. Does this make sense?

I didn't make this mistake on the Ghia because Jos

Invite Josee's dad back......