Fiberfab International Porsche Speedster Built in 1991

With respect $20k firm asking price is quite high for this as is....

Would you take 11K?

Also with all due respect, a replica built 24 years ago and in the condition as described, $20K is high. A person can buy a new Vintage Speedster built in their choice of colors for $24K. Wishing you best of luck with the sale. 

PLEASE remove the plastic fuel filter from within the engine compartment!  It is a disastrous fire just waiting to happen. Move it to below the fuel tank or over rear axel (and support the fuel lines).  If you want to sell it lower price to $15k and take offer of $14k.  

+1 to Wolfgangs fuel filter suggestion.

Regarding the price, I think you gents are missing the point. His wife wants him to sell one of his toys. He's listed the Speedster for sale just as she requested. It's not his fault that nobody is buying it. It looks like He will have to keep driving it until the right buyer comes along.  Might be easier to buy her some jewelry and sleep with one eye open.

Best of luck the sale! *wink*

Decided to keep the car and quit this site. Clearly, I will continue to enjoy the car while you idiots keep bargain hunting like old ladies at a garage sale.

Bye!

No one actually set out to offend the seller however in regards to the jewelry statement you can't get the price of a diamond from cubic zirconia.......if the seller is still around send me a PayPal request and I'll send you $10,000 as soon as you move the plastic fuel filter off the distributor . I'm a no nonsense  buyer.

Great, now you've upset my grandma.

 

 

Joined the free version of the site in March of 2015 and your three posts were to sell three cars. So sorry we won't have any more of your insightful banter.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jUgWCAXxTQ

I was just noticing the same thing that Robert points out.

 

Well the only value for a car is what the buyer is willing to pay for it, and any informed buyer should find out what the new car builders charge and do his market research. Some vendors will always be outthere thinking that their car is worth more than the market knows it is worth, but while you can find guys called Tucker everywhere, on this list you won't find guys called Tucker who will allow you to change their name and make is start with an S instead. 

I'm not sure what I appreciate more on this site?

The technical information / advice...or the witty entertainment!

So what should we have done differently?

I think it was the *wink* that pushed him over the edge. My bad.

Part of me thinks he picked up that 14,500.00 car he showed us back in April and now wants to flip it for 20k because he saw another one listded for 20k on CL. My bet is that if you troll Miami CL you will see an add from MiamiSpeedster.

No harm in this process, but you can't take your ball and go home when someone calls you on it. Just sayin.

Don't go away mad...just go away!

 

Hey! I'm the only idiot on here. Do you think these people don't know the value of your car? If you had of done your research and priced the car correctly then these "idiots" would have helped you sell your car! ...after a barrage of commentary first though.

http://youtu.be/cJe6-afGz0Q

> On Jul 10, 2015, at 3:48 PM, SpeedsterOwners.com <alerts@hoop.la> wrote:
>

Hey you can't pull one over us, we've been literally around the block a few times lol.

 

Bahahaha!  Wow, someone clearly doesn't know what his car is worth!  Bargain hunting?!  $20K for an old CMC/FF should be called price gouging!

 

Been seeing a lot of CMC/FF's on ebay and CL lately in the $20K's, and every time I see it I think two things:  

1. Someone's trying to pull a fast one

2. Pity the fool buyer that doesn't know what this car is

 

I think people who aren't enthusiasts about these replicas don't understand the difference between the different manufacturers of speedsters.  Just because VS and JPS cars sell in the $20-30K range, and Beck and IM cars sell for higher, doesn't make your old CMC/FF worth that.  It isn't.  Sorry, but it isn't.  You can take your ball and go home.  But your car is worth at max $15K on a great day.  The engine bay isn't even sealed off.

Things are worth what people will pay for them....

Then why is Bernie Madoff currently incarcerated?

Era;

Your profile, doesn't identify what manufacture speedster you own.  For your criticism to hold water, it would be helpful to understand what your benchmark is?

 

Art

2004 built CMC

1973 VW pan

Mr. Kelly:

 

I thought Bernie was given an  executive pardon?

       
       
If by executive pardon you mean he's dead, then yes he was given an executive pardon. Bernie's talking to God about how he fooled so many for so long with that Ponzi scheme.

I thought Bernie is still alive and kicking (unfortunately).

His son, Andrew, on the other hand, just died.

       
       
You're right. I got my Madoffs confused. Andrew died in September 2014. Bernie suffered a heart attack January 2014 and was let out of prison for treatment. He has since been returned to prison and is now suffering from Stage 4 cancer of some type.

I would disagree. A nice FiberFab, all sorted, running perfect and great body/paint should go for $20k.  The problem here is the body admittedly has issues and there is no mention of the engine condition.

 

-=theron

I bet I could get 20k for my CMC.

Why? It's the sum total of the parts. New Pro Street transmission, 1915cc motor, A1 Sidewinder, full flow oil filter, type 4 oil cooler and associated cooling tins, setrab external oil cooler,  new master cylinder, 4 wheel discs, wide 5 wheels, VDO Porsche gauges, etc.

The point I'm making is that it's not just the make of the car that limits the price. Upgrades should also be taken into consideration.

Just my dos pesos.

The return on upgrades to your car is probably similar to having renovations done to your house.  Some upgrades/renos give a larger % return than others.  Some make the house/car more sale-able/desirable, but don't increase the selling price.

Bought my CMC kit new in 1989 for $8k (plus $1400! shipping) - with chassis and parts have over $12k "invested".  At 4% interest for 26 years - it's now worth $23,692!  WooHoo!  That's better than my investment with ole Bernie. 

 

Point is it's a hobby and NOT an investment.  Restoring an old real 356 is perhaps both a hobby (if you do it yourself) and an investment --- but still very risky.

Totally agree. Some will result in no increase in resale value. But the point is that the make isn't the ONLY determining factor.

So the one I have listed for a customer with several upgrades is a decent deal. Big motor, porsche fan, weber carbs, A1 exhaust,4 wheel disc brakes, narrowed beam, polished fuchs,etc....then why doesn't someone buy it!��

The below is a guide only ... Seller / Buyer's experience may differ.

 

 

 A unassembled CMC - FiberFab $3,000 to 5,000 depending on how complete

  ....with or w/o chassis, motor trans  etc. 

 

 An older CMC - FiberFab (running) in need of mechanical and or cosmetic  upgrades.... $7,500 to $9,500

 Deduct 25% for  a less desirable flared, unless it's a higher end styled car.

 

 Used VS / JPS $15,000 to $22,000 depending on condition, motor size and options

 Used VS super wide add up to 20%.

 

 Beck's approx: Mid $20s to upper $20's and low to mid $30's +-

 

 Pan based older IM's in good running condition $13,000 to $22,000

 

 Later IM's $30,000 to whatever the Buyer and Seller agree on.

 

       
       

Good point. Kind of sinks my theory. My guess is that car won't sell because of the rear ride height.

Alan, thanks for the Merklin Blue Book. In the used VS/JPS, where does an equally fitted CMC fall?

 

From my viewpoint, it seems the "coasts" get higher prices for Porsches. In your opinion is that true for replicas also?

 

Thanks,

 

Art

How did I miss that?  CMC $12k to $18k all depends on condition motor etc.

Some CMC's can sell in the low $20's

I agree mostly with what the buyer and seller agree on.  What someone pays is not our problem.  We can only give advice and benchmarks and the rest is out of our hands.  Each situation has its own unique variables. No need to make someone feel inferior or superior.

One factor in the purchase of one of these replicas has nothing to do with common sense or current calculated value...and that's pure drooling LUST that triggers a mindless sensuality.

 

People have been known to accept a perpetual rice&beans diet to satisfy insatiable desire...ask me how I know!