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Hey guys i have a Widebody Speedster made by Fiber.  So the other day i was driving and out of nowhere I heard banging under the floor, so I pulled over to the side and it just wouldnt go anymore... the engine reved in drive but no wheels spinning... I took the tire off and the rear drum was spun out.  The drivers side rear axle end was fine... so I ordered a rear drum for a 72' VW Beetle... the bolt holes are too far apart (5")... Mine are 4.5"  so how do i get a 4.5" rear drum?

Thanks guys... I love and miss my speedster

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Alan Merklin posted:

VW says 217 lb. but you need to go to the first available cotter pin hole past the 217lb.  and that becomes close to the 270 lb.mark....at least that's the way I was taught back in the day.

Ok I was taught the same thing basically, just 10 pounds apart.
In your first post, I was thinking you meant 270lbs plus whatever it takes to get to first cotter hole, hence why I questioned you.
Sorry for the misinterpretation and thank you for the clarification.

Some time ago I bought a rolling speedster project and flat towed it with a tow bar.Speedster started to sway L & R, stopped checked everything and on my way until it got really bad.   I had minimal tools with me, found I could turn the rear axle castle nut with a vise grip, removed the drum found the left rear drum splines were about worn away. Found a soda can along the shoulder of the road, cut it open made a few folded over aluminum strips then stuffed those between the axle and the drum, sat on the ground and beat the the drum back onto the axle with my feet, tightened the castle nut the best I could and towed it  over 250 miles like that

I said 4 x 100 mm was std size but meant 4 x 130mm (4 x 100 is for Jetta/Rabbit).  Those extra 4 holes and the pressed in studs make me think you have custom drums maybe for Honda/Yota wheels?  Just to check - are you measuring correctly?  VW wheel bolt patterns are measured in mm (but easy to convert 4.5"= 114.3 mm). The 114.3 mm is a valid size - just not for stock VW drums - you probably will have to get blank un-drilled drums for a '72 bug and have them drilled for that size BUT since you have the new drum already get it drilled for the custom size.

 

 

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Alan Merklin posted:

Some time ago I bought a rolling speedster project and flat towed it with a tow bar.Speedster started to sway L & R, stopped checked everything and on my way until it got really bad.   I had minimal tools with me, found I could turn the rear axle castle nut with a vise grip, removed the drum found the left rear drum splines were about worn away. Found a soda can along the shoulder of the road, cut it open made a few folded over aluminum strips then stuffed those between the axle and the drum, sat on the ground and beat the the drum back onto the axle with my feet, tightened the castle nut the best I could and towed it  over 250 miles like that

1981: I'm 17 years old and loose in the big world. My buddies and I think it'd be an excellent idea to drive a 1963 Galaxy 500 with 250K mi on the clock to Estes Park, Co. We throw a RD350 in the trunk, and head west.

After shredding two tires (with the axles coming loose from the rear end and walking out, driving the tires into the fenders)-- on a sidewalk in Lincoln, NE, we pull the axles. On the sidewalk, we beat chisel marks into the splines of the axles. We shove them back in, beat them in with a sledge hammer, take the RD out of the trunk, and proceed west-- one guy on the RD, two guys in the Galaxy.

We arrived unscathed (ish). I'm pretty sure the "press fit" axles never came out again (another 100K mi or so).

Oh, to be young, penniless, and stupid again.

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Yes!! 1000x's yes. 

That's the kind of 'road trip' my son will never experience and that makes me sad. The best I have to add is... Coming back from a concert when I was 16. A buddies 65 Mustang kept dying out. 100 degrees on the side of a country road in Sutter County. We traced it back to the carb float. Turned out it cracked and was submerged in the float bowl.  I got the bright idea to 'patch it' with a napkin and super glue.  

Totally got us home. I don't think my buddy (Geoff Burgess) ever fixed it properly. 

I love it!

Ted
p.s. 
I'd have been 11 in 81. My biggest concern was how to lash paper route bags to my handle bars with 91 Sunday papers...

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We called the Galaxy: "The Beat". It was a battle-axe of a car, 4 dr, an ex-loaner for the service station my friend and I both worked as as oil-change monkeys (oh, the stories I've got from that place). Anyhow, when it got too scruffy for that (and believe me, that was pretty scruffy), my buddy bought it for $50.

It was his all-purpose "get-around" winter car in the beginning. We all had mid-70s cars we were building or had built into street machines. He had a '76 Pinto with a 289, T10 4-speed, and a 9" rear-end. I had a Chevy Monza with a built 350. We drove these cars sparingly, and got around in a string of cars all costing $100 or less (there's some good stories there as well-- like the time my mom called a scrap yard and had all of my "reserve" beaters hauled off).

Eventually, the cars we drove were so bad, they became excellent. Whenever we would see each other parked in a public place, we would deliberately hit each other-- rake down the side with a bumper, etc. No car inflicted more damage with less wear-and-tear than "The Beat". While not running into each other, we amused ourselves by shooting the body panels with a .410 shotgun. We could not penetrate the bodywork on that car, even from 10 ft away.

Anyhow, by the time we took it to Colorado, we had taken out the back seat and replaced it with a lawn-chair chaise. The glass was all intact, but several windows would not roll down any more. Of course, none of these cars had A/C. We took the RD along in the trunk because we were considering it the last line of defense, in case we burned through all the tires, or some vital piece of running gear disintegrated into base elements along the way. None of us really had a concern about the FoMoCo small-block, as I'm pretty sure it's probably still out there somewhere, running away, burning about a quart  of used motor oil every 500 mi.

When we got back, we cut the top off the car with a sawzall and cutting torch. One Saturday night, the gas-tank fell off the back of the car after the straps rusted in half. The situation was satisfactorily resolved by cutting the floor out of the trunk, welding tabs on a 55 gal drum, bolting the drum in the back, and piping it up. The effective cruising range of the car was doubled, and it was most excellent.

The final permutation of the car came when the exhaust fell off, and we welded up pipes that came up through the back seat area, pointing up on a 45 deg angle and terminating about 6 ft in the air. The car had achieved perfection, with nowhere to go but down. 

Eventually, we grew up. I got married, my buddies moved on to other things. Steve rolled the Pinto, I sold the Monza. I have no idea where "The Beat" ended up, but the last time I checked, early 60s Galaxy windshields were worth no small amount of money. It's somehow emblematic to me that a little thought-of piece of a forgotten car is somehow worth more than all of the rest of it ever was.

We're all men of a certain age now-- business owners and leaders in one way or another. My kids are grown and having kids of their own.

They say you only live once, but if you live well-- once is enough. I've got zero regrets regarding any of this.

 

(Dave, Me, Steve, Estes Park, 1981)

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Marty Grzynkowicz posted:

Stan, what happend to your waist:~)

Yeah, there's that. As of today, I'm easily 60 lbs heavier than I was when I was 17.

I ran into a schoolmate a couple of weeks ago: a guy I hadn't heard from in 35 years. The first thing he said was, "what happened to all your long blond hair"? I think he was too polite to ask when Jabba the Hut had taken over my body.

My dear Mr. Galat.
 
I believe I've read more of your words that Leo Tolstoy ever wrote, and I continue to be impressed, not only with the way in which you convey a thought, but also with the depth to which you describe your ascension into Perfectionist Car Guy.
 
A long, long time ago, you wrote that you drove while hanging onto the shift knob -- because it was 'cool' and you didn't know any better -- only to realize years later that you shouldn't have. That was good material, but you just topped that with ridiculous aplomb.
 
I need to learn to write like that. You just made my whole week, writing about "The Beat."
 
(You might want to delete that photo, though. That's probably going to haunt you at some point.) 
 
 
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