Fix the Green Coupe

Thanks to all the generous offers of time and expertise, the green coupe WILL get sorted out and into working order! Here are possible dates:


6/13, 6/14 & 6/15

6/26, 6/27 & 6/28

7/11, 7/12 & 7/13


What dates work best for you volunteers??

Let me know.

Issues to be addressed are:
Blue smoky exhaust

HEY TOM CONGRATS ON KEEPING IT
LIKE JACK GIVE ME AN ADDRESS AND I WILL ALSO SEND $50.00 FOR BEER AND FOOD FOR THE WORK CREW

Tom:

Regarding the smoking engine - could be a lot of things, but this is usually caused by burnt oil or fuel deposits getting either around the valve heads or burnt onto the oil rings - either way, you get smoke, but more like yours if the rings aren't sealing. The fact that it doesn't have as much punch as my 2,110 AND the smoke is blue instead of gray or black tells me that it's probably the rings. Sometimes an engine won't break in properly and because there's a lot of oil getting past the oil scraper rings it cokes up around the rings and they simply can't seal. Try doing a compression test and a leak-down test to confirm it (that mechanic we stopped at along the way to Carlisle can help with this, I'm sure). Larry Jowdy posted a terrific break-in procedure somewhere on this site that will surely help, once the source of the smoke is eliminated.

At Carlisle, Chris mentioned trying a dose or two of "Sea Foam" to try clearing it up without pulling everything apart. The stuff is miraculous and was designed just to remove coked deposits where ever they occur (Vince: Coke THIS!)

Get some and follow the directions, but AFTER you've checked the valve clearance (just to be sure). It can be added to the crankcase oil, to the fuel, or dumped directly down the carb throats, depending on what you're trying to cure, and the stuff really works!! I would re-check the valve clearance after you use it, too.

Another thing I would try is to disconnect the breather hoses from both carbs so you have nothing vented from the case going into the carbs. Once they're off, drive it for a bit and see if that helps. THAT might point you toward something (or not). Let us know what happens with either the compression test, the vent hose test or the Sea Foam.

Thanks, Gordon and Chris

50 bucks! Must remember to pack the egg sammich pan....along with the cooler, ;)

Just found this thread after posting my offer on the old thread.
Count me in on beer or whatever.
Just give me an address.
Hey Gerd, can we write this off? ;)

terry
yep
im claiming tom as a dependent this year

I posted on the other thread as well.
From the list above it seems like this isn

Hey Tom,

Since I feel that our coupes are brothers (or maybe sisters?) I'll chip in some money for beer, chips for the crew or whatever you need. I can send via PayPal to your email address, will that be O.K?

Eddy

Cory has made us an emblem ...

Eddy, any news on your car?

Cory/Theresa - This would indeed be a badge of honor!!

Sounds like there's a lot of offers for suds and sammiches. Maybe the party should be after the work is done. Ah, you guys can handle it.

Tom, sounds like you boys on that east coast are in need of a super Tech-Night.. Boy ole boy if you saw some of the pix that my Brutha Jimbo MUSBJIM has of our design engineers that work on our tubs you would surely be impressed,

and don't call me surely... LOL..

Speedster "D"

Sounds like the next event of the East Coast season:

Save the Coupe at Easton, PA!!

Tom: It'll help to group tasks to be done so they can be finished as quickly as possible by small groups of 2-3 people on each end of the car (so they keep out of each other's way).

How's this?:
Issues to be addressed are:
Team 1:
Blue smoky exhaust

I always KNEW you wanted to organize another build! Relax, Gordon, you're retired, remember?

Tom -

Hope you have better luck than our West Coast tech session on GQ's Speedy...

Bwaaaaa Haaaaaaa HAaaaaaaa Haaaaaa

Why don't you mail John Steele one of those badges!

Isn't it sort of ironic that this car is pictured on the JPS main page. That is the same car is it not?

Gordon - great list. Thanks for your organization skills!

I think the engine is first priority along with the leaks.

Cory - LMAO at that logo. I will definitely forward to JPS!!

Again you guys are too much. This truly shows the great bunch of people here on the SOC. I am overwhelmed at the generosity.

Eddy & Jack - No need to send cash. Much appreciate the offers. Eddy how's your coupe doing? What's the post fire prognosis?


Unfortunately I have no lift.

Hey Tom,

My coupe is still not back, last check earlier today, the body is still with the body shop, the engine is still with the engine builder. I was promised that it will get done next week. We shall see....

Keep us posted on the fix of your green coupe. I sure can learn one thing or another that I can use on mine..... once it is back

Take care,

Eddy

hey tom
you have convinced me that what i have been told about u is more than true
u tell jack and eddie who offered money not to send but Warren and Terry and myself u basically said fock off as u did not recognize them I am assuming because we challenged your constant self indulging posts

tom ________________________________________________off

Geezz, Gerd.....lighten up, will ya?

Yo, gerd:

This whole SOC Forum, bulletin board buisiness is all about various selves indulging same in their passion -- you included. Take a few deep breaths and a nice walk or drive around the park, then come back and join the fun.

This is nothing new for Gerd, he's been down this road before
He has his issues. It's OK, we all do. However most of us have enough self control and maturity to be civil.
This isn't the first time he's been like this, I recall some pretty childish crap with Ester awhile back.

Gerd,
Are you F'n kidding me?! You're pissed because Tom didn't acknowledge your offer? My God! Take your damn beer-ball and F'n go home! These guys have the decency to tell you to take a walk, or chill. I don't. I'll go as far as to say that it stands to prove the point, that if someone like you is playing "character reference" for John Steele than you just reassured us all! Grow the F up you little sissy! Geez, you're an ass.

Mickey - So name calling is cool? Looks as though your colors are soaking through a little.

Deep breaths, everybody.

Warren, I call em like I see em. Like I said, we all have our issues. One of mine is not being able to keep my mouth shut when I see someone being an ass.

I've got no beef with John Steele, he didn't build a car for me. This all started out as an effort to help someone out and Gerd comes in being a little sissy mary. Crying about how mean Tom was because he didn't send him a raised gold-letter thank you note for his offer.
I'm fine with saying what I did. Sometimes you just have to tell someone to shut the F up and go away. Gerd, ya listen?

I love this site...big bang for the buck....
All of you who are NOT donating members (and we all know who you are) cough up a few bucks, entertainment like this usually does not come cheap.
Jim, bring me a cold one, will ya....oh, did those hookers show up yet..

Mickey - I think you're missing the whole point here. There were a few of us who, in reading the posts, smelled a one sided story and stated so. Then someone, Terry I think, said this is not going to get Tom's car fixed. We on the West Coast, obviously can't help much with wrenchs, but we offered to donate to the party. This, IMHO, was nothing more than a gesture to move this thing positive. I do think what Gerd says about Tom's lack of response, like an address to send the suds money, doesn't ring right somehow. But then, a lot of misunderstanding in what is actually meant when writing happens more often than not. I vote that we move back to the subject at hand, that of getting this project underway and having some fun with it.

You suck John Steele! AAAAGGGHHHHH!!

Back to business everybody -- PLEASE!!

wrt Tach, Gordon has suggested a place, and I have had good luck w/ North Hollywood Speedo. [Side bar: I contacted these guys and got the skinny on what they do: use your can and face plate, and replace all innards w/ genuine VDO parts. I set about to do this, willing to pay the price ($200.00?). I told John what I was going to do, that I was not happy w/ original and his idea of a fix (send me another one just like it), both being cheap Chinese knock-offs. John said PLEASE send him the old tach and he would take care of bringing them to NHS (right near by his shop) and that he (JPS) would pay for it. I actually argued with him over this, saying I figured he had had his chance, and blew it. He strenuously insisted. I sent him the old tach, and in a little while I got a nicely rebuilt one from NHS that actually works like it should. JPS footed the bill.] Tom: do you have a tach w/ face plate to match other gauges?

wrt: "Heater ducting is inoperative and poorly fitted." I heard from MUSB, or someone, that you can get a boat bilge evacuation blower (12V) and hook it directly to the heater boxes instead of the take-off from the fan housing. This way you get good air pressure/flow through the heater box regardless of engine revs. Seems like a good solution, and I suppose there is a place to put such a fan. Would need a switch somewhere, and wiring, etc. I would also use insulated piping/ducting in every possible place. There will be a lot of heat loss from back to front in any pipe exposed to the breeze at 50-60 mph.

Biggest problem (aside from engine) is water sealing the carriage. Where does the water get in from? Tom do you really know?

PS: of dates given at top, only the two latter ones look possible for me.

I'm here all week folks (Vince). Make sure to tip your bartender and waitress (and the Hookers).

Warren,
You're right. It's hard to really get the intended tone of some posts. After re-reading Gerds post I can see what he was probably trying to say was that he feels for Tom and that he wishes he could make the trip to help out. Yeah, that's what it was. Sorry Gerd.

Ok, Ok, I'm done being a "D" now. Back to the topic.




Sorry Vince.

Kelly: Regarding your suggestion for a heater blower, check with Carey and ask what he uses. I have one in mine, and it blows pretty strongly, although it's obviously not as good as a modern system. Not sure where it could be mounted in Tom's car, though. In the Beck there is a shelf in front of the engine, where my blower is, but other Speedsters don't have this arrangement.

Sure, I'm sitting here in my underwear with a cold one, and all of a sudden you guys decide to make nice....thanks a lot...

Would you be kind enough to post a picture Vince?

Wouldn't want this thread to get boring...

angela

PLEASE . . . I HAVE NOT INTENTIONALLY MEANT ANY DISRESPECT HERE TO ANYONE.

I'M NOT ASKING ANYONE TO SEND MONEY. I AM ALREADY OVERWHELMED BY ALL THE SUPPORT. That does not mean I do not appreciate the thought or the effort or the gesture. It is simply not necessary.

YOU ALL HAVE BEEN SO SUPPORTIVE AND GENEROUS I CAN'T POSSIBLY REPAY YOUR KINDNESS.

AS FOR ONE-SIDED . . . LET ME JUST SAY YOU HAVE ONLY HEARD THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG AND I AM STILL EXTREMELY RESTRAINED IN WHAT I HAVE POSTED.

GERD, YOU AND I HAVE NEVER MET. I MAKE NO JUDGMENT ABOUT WHAT KIND OF PERSON YOU ARE BASED ON WHAT YOU POST BECAUSE I KNOW THERE IS MUCH MORE THAN CAN SHOW ON THESE PAGES. WITH RESPECT, YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED OR WHAT WAS PROMISED AND SO CAN'T MAKE A TRUE JUDGEMENT OF ME, HAVING NEVER MET ME AND NOT PRIVY TO ALL THE FACTS. I defended JPS too, until he failed me too many times. I'M HAPPY FOR ANYONE WHO HAD A GOOD EXPERIENCE WITH JPS --- I HOWEVER HAVE NOT. MY POSTS WERE NOT MEANT TO BE SELF INDULGENT. I TRULY DID NOT EXPECT THIS GENEROUS RESPONSE. I ONLY WANTED TO WARN OTHERS TO AVOID MY EXPERIENCE. I TRIED LONG AN HARD TO GET RESOLUTION QUIETLY. I HAVE SIMPLY COME TO A POINT WHERE I LOST MY PATIENCE.

Opps . . . sorry about ALL the upper case - my bad. There have been a ton of posts and all supportive. If I have failed to acknowledge anyone's offers or well wishes, I am TRULY sorry. I've been having trouble working and keeping up with all the traffic. You have all overwhelmed me with ALL your support and I thank you all.

Kelly -

JPS has the original tach. This tach may be a wiring issue or a bad ground or something because it did work for a short while. It does not have the same look as the original it replaced.

Heater system has a fan, but ducts are ill-fitting and take on water.

Rocky & I have a pretty good Idea of where the water is coming in and JPS promises to send some splash guards he has fabricated for another Coupe (I assume). JPS is promising to send "whatever we need".

VOLUNTEERS:

If we are going to start on June 14, who is available that day?

Plan would be to drop the engine and transaxle first.

I expect this is going to be accomplished over several weeks.


Gordon -
Got the seafoam but engine won't start right now. Not sure why. Think the fuel pump is not working. Was having an issue with it not shutting off without the kill switch after all that rain.