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FM Former Member
Anyone have ideas on replacing rusted floor pans with tin or fiberglass products & sources? Noticed some rust through on my drivers side, pulled the carpet, and it is scary.

(Message Edited 10/8/2002 5:00:04 PM)
add:Well viewed the BugMe vol#6 video which is very informative on the whole process, gleened some info off another site, bought a pan, Por 15 for rust, and several cutoff blades later have a solid floor once again. Drivers side is the most involved with haveing to replace a rust weakened brake line & removing the peddle assembly. But its all very do-able.
Theory on why these failed after five years, carpet got soaked driving in heavey rains and the padding held the moisture while the surface appeared dry. Water came through the rear wheel wells as the wheels spin throwing some towards the cockpit, hitting the fiberglass just behind the door jam, running down and collecting where the fiberglass shell joins the rear of the floorpans.
Corrective actions I am not gluing down the replacement pads to remove them easily if necessary, I have placed some aluminum flashing cut and fitted into the wheel wells to prevent that source of water from reaching the interior.
If any on wants to borrow this Bug Me video, I'll be glad to send it on to you. A couple of viewings and it is perty clear what needs to happen.
Victor

(Message Edited 10/13/2002 2:14:35 AM)
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FM Former Member
Anyone have ideas on replacing rusted floor pans with tin or fiberglass products & sources? Noticed some rust through on my drivers side, pulled the carpet, and it is scary.

(Message Edited 10/8/2002 5:00:04 PM)
add:Well viewed the BugMe vol#6 video which is very informative on the whole process, gleened some info off another site, bought a pan, Por 15 for rust, and several cutoff blades later have a solid floor once again. Drivers side is the most involved with haveing to replace a rust weakened brake line & removing the peddle assembly. But its all very do-able.
Theory on why these failed after five years, carpet got soaked driving in heavey rains and the padding held the moisture while the surface appeared dry. Water came through the rear wheel wells as the wheels spin throwing some towards the cockpit, hitting the fiberglass just behind the door jam, running down and collecting where the fiberglass shell joins the rear of the floorpans.
Corrective actions I am not gluing down the replacement pads to remove them easily if necessary, I have placed some aluminum flashing cut and fitted into the wheel wells to prevent that source of water from reaching the interior.
If any on wants to borrow this Bug Me video, I'll be glad to send it on to you. A couple of viewings and it is perty clear what needs to happen.
Victor

(Message Edited 10/13/2002 2:14:35 AM)
FM Former Member
I think fiberglass can be a decent repair, but metal would be my preference. If you use the glass, I would consider glassing only the cancer area. You know how to THOROUGHLY prepare the metal for glass bonding and rust inhibitation. Maybe even a little acid in the marginal areas. Glass both sides of the repair. Note that anywhere the glass separates from the metal will be the place that collects and holds moisture, which will eventually deteriorate into another repair. It may take 5 years to happen.
FM Former Member
I'm just starting my speedster project and am starting to deal with rusted out pans in the doner VW. I'm wondering if anyone has tried to "rinoline" the inside of the pans. Then if the carpet gets wet in the future or there is some other leak, there is very little chance of the pans rusting out.
FM Former Member
If rinoline is the brush/roll on simular to truck-bed liner, a local vw shop sugested that, and uses it in buggies they put together. Also as an external pan treatment, it was suggested "cool coat" as a durable ply-able under coat. The Por 15 product is an excellant rust arrester and is best used on rusted or wheathered metal. New metal needs to be prepared to get max adhesion. Directions need to be followed completely. It goes on black but will turn brown if exposed to sunlight. This wont effect the protective qualities only appearence. (The rusted pans I removed looks as though they could of belonged to that rust-bucket speedster body that was on EBAY awhile back.)The pans installed are of the metal variety as I was not sure of how to cut down the fiberglass replacements.
FM Former Member
I have gone with the por 15 on the inside and plan an annual cleaning and touching up with the product. On the bottom side is now an undercoat for reassurance, though these pans rusted from the inside. Found a heavy rubber material to pad the carpet with & (no glue). Mounted the seats a couple of inches futher back, tilting back the drivers side slightly, adjusted for comfort while I was there.
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